That's worn, not lazy. Lazy is a human trait when you're capable but not willing. The sensor is no longer capable due to age.

 

Sounds like the problem I'm having currently... 2-3 shift is hesitant and when car is cold the shift between D-Reverse is lagging big time.

What was the fix? is this really going to be my second tranny replacement?

2004 TL with 200,000km (120k miles)

 

Jeez, if you want to nitpick wordage, o2 sensors don't wear; they have no moving parts, nor do they erode like spark plugs. Even a narrow dictionary definition allows for non-human laziness such as lazy days, lazy rivers etc. Lazy is also synonymous with slow moving, or sluggish; again from the dictionary. The main reason I posted the information about the use of the term in the automotive industry was in defense of his mechanic, who you deemed an idiot for using that terminology. It really sounded to me like you weren't familiar with either the wording, or the fact that o2 sensors can perform poorly up to a point without causing a cel. It's very common in the automotive industry to just call them lazy. It's nothing I'd judge a mechanic's competency over.

 

Hey I'm just saying, if a mechanic told me I had a lazy sensor I'd be weary personally. I'm picky that way.

 

I understand your point to a certain degree, but to me, it's such common terminology in the industry that I'd be concerned if a mechanic was unfamiliar with it.

 

With all of our new automotive technology and parts engineered to function within a particular range, we are at times victimized by the mechanical technician assigned the task, depending on his skill and mood of the day.

May God bless everyone with a Happy New Year !

 

^Agreed; and I forgot to mention; the part about experiencing regular after being accustomed to premium causing the lazy sensor is pretty much b.s..
Hey! Isn't this a transmission thread?

 

Just thought i'd chime in. 2001 TL-P , 189k Miles. Transmission #4 Now has no third gear. I've been driving it this way for 6 months, hasn't gotten any worse. I just let off the gas when it tries to shift into third, and it goes into 4th and 5th and i'm on my way.

This time i'm going to go the AV6 or Odyssey route.

 

Add me to the list of Acura transmission victims.

2003 Acura TL-P, 120k when I bought it 6 weeks ago. Just croaked at 121k.
This was supposed to be one of the "corrected" production transmissions. Late 2003 production.

 

"Corrected" transmissions are post 2005 as far as I know.

 

Pretty sure the corrected transmissions begin at 05 for TL (3rd gen); 06 for Accord (7th gen); and 05 for Odyssey (3rd gen). Im almost done with my 05 Odyssey trans swap in my 2000 TL. Its bolted up and connected.

 

Speaking of tranny issues, I just spent $775 on my '99 TL for new motor mounts thinking (hoping) the reverse clunk and fourth gear slippage issues would be resolved. Not so. I've read that changing the 3rd and 4th gear pressure switched on the outside of the tranny should help. Seems like a reasonable cost to get a fix without having to sink thousands into either A) having Acura sell me a rebuild or B) going to a shop where I will likely be skinned alive. Anyone know if changing the pressure switches has made a positive difference in these problems??

 

No good. Problem is internal, tranny swap is inevitable

 

Can't complain, bought the car with almost 250k miles, jsut wish it lasted longer than 3 weeks. Rough 2-3 shifts initally, slow into reverse now, no 3rd or higher, funky smell of slipping plates. Sooooo...looks like I'm looking into the 6 spd swap or the 05 Oddy (as it seems to be cheaper to get)/06 Accord tranny (as it seems more plentiful).

Pricing it, seems the parts for the MT and installing myself are pretty close for a used AT and shop install. Still flipping the coin on which way to go.

Aside from those transmissions, does anyone know off the top of their head if there are other alternatives I could/should look at to get better pricing on used MT?

 

So a flashing D5 light means blown tranny?

 

Hi Guys, I have been reading all about Tranny failures on this forum. Thanks for all the useful information. I definitely have a failed tranny on a 2003 Acura 3.2L V6. I have seen posts talking about swapping the 03' with an Accord 06/07 Transmission for the Type S, is it also possible for the 3.2L?

Thanks!

 

Get a 5 speed AT from an '06>'07 Accord V-6 donor and go for it !

Check some more of the many posts on this swap along with the details on making it work.

 

Just spent a bit of time searching, but unable to find the 'holy grail' of this thread so far:
What are the part numbers for the 3rd & 4th solenoids on our lemon transmissions? Should I do 2nd while I'm at it? (Is there a 2nd?)
I'm 13 months into my 2nd trans, and 3rd gear is doing what everyone else's is doing

Thanks in advance - and sorry to re-ask a question that has been addressed ad infinitum.

 

Just got into one of these 2000 SSM TL in FEB.
The car has only 80,000 and the original tranny.
is there anyway to prevent this known tranny failure or is it inevitable ?
best way to prolong the good tranny i have ?

 

126k miles and my trannys gone :/ Getting it rebuilt in two days, anything I should be aware of when rebuilding to let my mechanic know?

 

Just did some major overhaul work on my 99 TL. Car has 133k, owned it for the last 100k, and the transmission says its time to call it a day. Was qouted $2200 for a rebuild with 24month/2yr warranty... To say the least, I will be close to 5k in repairs on this car this year, hoping to get it over 200k without anything else major go wrong with her.

 

That's a fair price.

 

Yeah, once the tranny is replaced, you should be good to go for the 200k. The warranty will get you part of the way ! Just keep up the basic PM and do the drain & fills.
Sometimes it's difficult to dump more money into a car then it's worth, but with the overall quality of the TL ....other then the problematic trannys....it sure beats a car payment !!!!!, imo.

 

Tranny just went out again on the 99.

 

I just got a 01 TL with 117k Miles on the 19th of last month, after about a week or so it started shifting funny into 3rd, like high rev then harshly into 3rd. Took it back to the dealer and they said it was tranny fluid. They flushed and refilled it. Not even another week passed by and it was shifting harshly in all gears until the CEL came on and the D5 was flashing in the instrument cluster. They tried to say it was motor and tranny mounts. After driving it a bit more they finally said it was the transmission, they've had the car almost 2 weeks looking for another TL transmission under 100k.

I told them that the accord v6 trannys from 06+ would work, I don't think they believe me. If they get another TL transmission, should I just sell it as soon as possible?

 

Finally no more problems after having the third tranny installed about 3 years ago

 

I just took my '02 TL Type S for a hard shifting problem between 1-2-3-4 and they swicthed out the 4th pressure sensor and that did not work dont waste your money or time. It looks like a Honda Transmission Shift Solenoid might just be the fix.

 

Hello all, I just signed up today. I want to say I am a proud owner of a '02 TL Type S and I had a second tranny replaced at about 105K under warranty. Now it reads 169K on the odometer and it is acting hard shifting, however no smell fluid is nice and red, no grinding, no shavings or noise just jerk and feels real slow like car can't rev high. I doubt my tranny has taken a crap, I belive it is a solenoid wich one is the question, all these so called "techs" at Acura Dealers don't know nothing all they say is replace transmission they cant properly dignose! Anybody can help me?

 

Hey man, try it ....alot cheaper than replacing the tranny. What have ya got to lose ?

 

Your only source of diagnostic information is the Service Manual. Service techs are too lazy to read it and perform the tests to diagnose a transmission. They hate doing stuff like this. It involves unplugging many sensor connectors and checking the pins for voltages and resistance. You can easily do it yourself when you have spare time in the weekend.

 

Hey guys,

First post. I'm one of the many victims of an 01 TL tranny failure. Dealer (Acura of Ocean, NJ) wants $5k. So I think I'm going with an 06/07 Accord tranny swap.

The issue is I'm having a hard time convincing my mechanic that the two are swappable. He won't even try to locate one from a junkyard and won't accept one I find until he's convinced.

I've searched this site and other than many of you 'saying' it will work, I don't have any documented proof. Does anyone know of any threads here or other sites where it lists the Accord tranny part numbers that will work?

 

Hey DreaminJohn, welcome !
Don't even consider blowing $5K on a tranny . Buy a new car first !

But realistically, the '06>'07 Accord V-6's AT will work well for ya. Either check another mechanic or have your's read the site's threads on the swap. If he has any experience with Honda tranny's, it should be simple enough to do. A low mileage Honda tranny at about $1000 and another $500 to install is a ballpark, but even at $2000 for the job with a basic warranty would be a good deal if ya really have a nice TL that ya wanna keep.

 

Im sure this has been asked but honestly i dont feel like going through 89 pages searching...but i just got a 2002 TL that had a new tranny put in a few years ago. I noticed that going from 2nd to 3rd it falters and doesnt shift properly. for me this is about 75mph. i know that this is a sure sign of a failing tranny but if i stay away from those speeds and stay under 70mph and in 2nd, should it be ok otherwise?

 

Automatic transmissions work a lot on hydraulic pressure. On paper, yes that will be fine, but your transmission is going to fail. I would either sell the car or replace the transmission, but is important not to get a rebuild because it will fail again- it is just a bad design. I would suggest looking at the Accord V6 swap thread. It is the best way to avoid a headache.

 

My second transmission (replaced in Oct 2009 at 109k, $2800) in my '03 TL-S showed classic failure symptoms (hard downshift whilst braking on a downhill grade, CEL, VSA lights lit) yesterday, so I brought it into Ron Tonkin Acura this morning.

I was emailed their "Recommended Action Plan" just before lunch: Replace transmission and torque converter. CEL showed "P0740: Torque Converter Failure". Total cost: $5987!

I called the SA and started my argument that although it's been 3yrs and 8mos since the tranny's been replaced, the tranny was under 36k miles since the odometer is now at only 141k (32k since replacement). I thought that either the dealership or Acura should do "something" for me since I've been getting all my service there and this is my second Acura. The SA interrupts me (nicely) and says, "I know - I already talked to Acura and they'll cover 90%."

Turns out RTA's Acura Rep was in their Service Department today when the SA got the news of my TL's demise and he argued on my behalf. So bottom line, I'm getting a new tranny and TC for less than $600! plus I get to drive a pretty nice 2013 RDX for a week. All I gotta say is, "Thank you Lord!" and thank you Ron Tonkin Acura!

 

Hey Bonknhead, by chance did ya buy the TL new from that dealership ?

Was the original tranny replaced by them for half cost at $2800 ? Consider yourself very fortunate at the present time. Down the road, they want ya back for a new car !!!!

 

Nope, I bought my TL-S used from a used car lot.

I know I'm very lucky - actually blessed - to have this "deal". They still have my car, but driving this RDX has been a nice change of pace.

 

Yeah Bonknhead, ya got a keeper....run the wheels off of it !!!!
Don't let them entice ya too much with that loaner RDX, ya know they want ya back soon.

 

The RDX is gone, and I've had the TL-S for a couple days now. It's been running great so far.

Yeah, I've had it for 7 years now. I'll hang on to it for a couple more years. By then my oldest son will have graduated from college, I'll only have one son's tuition to pay for, and the TL-S' tranny warranty will still be intact so I'll be able to trade it in and buy something new. Hopefully by then Acura will have a new TL design, and hopefully a Type-S.

 

Well this is my very first post after buying a 2003 Acura TL Type S for my 19 year old son last week (July 4,2013). It was his first car and he paid half.

Here's the original add:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nv...910474296.html

The car has less than 77000 miles but here is my problem. 10 minutes after leaving the dealership (Lexus) I noticed a slight slip when accelerating from a red light. And trust me, I was babying it. I ignored it and when I got it home, my son and me spent the next 4 hours buffing and polishing it to bring the Nighthawk Black Pearl back to its original lustre.

Well the next day we took it for a drive and while sitting at a light turning left the car would hardly move. I mean the revs shot up to 4000 and the car just coasted through like a slug. I'm lucky we didn't get hit. After that it drove perfectly but then slipped a few more times. I won't let my son drive this as it's just not safe. Also, the check engine light, the VSA and the /!\ light came on. The check engine light stayed on but the other lights went off when I restarted it only to come back on after the next slip.

I called the dealer and he was really apologetic. I took the car in and they advised that they would go over it.

I am really disappointed with Acura... I mean the car is in really good condition and the engine seems to run like it's new but after reading this thread and seeing that some TL owners are on their 4th tranny WTF?

Oh I also called the Acura dealership who also owns the Lexus dealer I bought the car from and got a quote that if I want a brand new factory tranny re and re it would cost about $8500... rebuilding mine would cost me about $5000. Again WTF?

I'm up in Vancouver, BC, Canada and would really appreciate any advise at all. Also, can someone please send me a link to what it would take to put in a tranny from a 2006 Accord V6... please. And no, I don't want a manual 5 or 6 speed. This is suppose to be a luxury car not a race car. Please and thank you.