it's not bad but i would try going to the dealer...they may be willing to match that price w/goodwill assistance.

 

do you have any relationship with the dealer service dept? an 00 is pressing it to get goodwill
2400 with mounts is reasonable price

 

If a rebuild at a trans shop what parts should they use? Acura parts? What are Kevlar clutches and if good where do you get them? What about the TC? Get a rebuilt one - new one? What other parts in a rebuild based on experience should be done and used? Thanks in advance

 

I am going to try to shop around. Acura told me 4k for the rebuild. They want me to bring the car in and they will check it out and then do the pricing of it. I assume they just want the service charge. Going to try one of the other Acura dealers as well.

There is no lights on to indicate that the transmission is bad. The one thing I get is when the car warms up. Going from 1st to 2nd the car will go slow and sort of jump into the gear with a buck. Going from 2nd to 3rd I get a slight whining sound. I am assuming it is the transmission. You never know if these shops just tell you it is to rebuild it.

 

acura service writer or phone girl bs!!
the dont change the price depending on why its failed,
corp charges them x $ for a replacement unit, and they up that price and add labor to install to retail customers. approx total 4 to 5 grand!!!
there is a `core charge` thats returned to the dealer when old unit is sent back

If you are lucky and can get some Goodwill assistance, the acura regional warranty rep, and sometimes someone above them- decides how much help you get,,
dealer service MANAGER makes the call to corp rep and pleads your case,,or not,,,
dont let service writers tell you how hard they worked to get you 500 off..its a lie

kevlar clutches are better, shops can buy a kit with all the seals and normal stuff

trans shops must tear down and inspect all the parts, certain things wear out and others might,,dont know until you ck and measure
rebuilt TC is fine,,you just want one without all the crud yours had~

Ask a few trans shops for their experience with the TL trans

 

its worth trying a 3 qt fluid change to prolong trans life

If its slipping and revving without catching the gear,,then its really toast

 

I've never changed the Transmission fluid in the TL before. Would be nice if it was something simple as the Fluid.

Not sure what steps the shop does to determine that it needed to be rebuilt instead of just fluid.

 

Signs its failed
if it takes way longer than 2 seconds to fully engage 1st gear from N,,
if it slips-revs while trying to accellerate in a normal light to medium throttle
and wont catch 2nd or 3rd gear easily,,have to let off throttle for it to engage the gear.
If the fluid is black and smells like burnt sugar


if its slamming into gear or bucking, shudder type feel in the shift, it may be saved with cleaning the selenoids and some type F trans fluid,,not the honda atf in this case

 

shop scans for any codes,,some might say things like engine overspeed- but its really trans slippage,,or have actual trans codes!!

then they look at the fluid and smell it--that tells a lot about condition- burnt sugary is bad
next is a test drive- the TL has specific speeds used for each year-
basically light throttle cruise at 25 and 35 mph (those are for the 01) in D5
stand on the throttle, hold it to the floor and observe- does it rev and not engage? bad
does it do a positive feeling downshift and launch like a rocket? good!

test is repeated several times to get the clutches HOT, if there is a problem it will show then
Just doing it one or two times is not testing it- for the diyrs running out to ck theirs~

 

rough feeling shifts with noise can also be the motor mounts,,or even an axle bearing/cv

ck everything and hope for the cheap option
see thread by I hate cars on atf,,he has revived a 99 trans and several ziners are testing different brands of type F in ailing trans
some even on redline racing atf and smooth shifts have returned

 

Thanks for the info... the dealer called today and they are picking up the cost minus a $100.00 'deductible'. can't quite get info on whether the replacement is the same P.O.S. model transmission that was OEM or an improved version. I do know it will be a rebuilt.
We are determining whether to keep the TL or put it up for sale?????

 

Thanks for the info... the dealer called today and they are picking up the cost minus a $100.00 'deductible'. can't quite get info on whether the replacement is the same P.O.S. model transmission that was OEM or an improved version. I do know it will be a rebuilt.
We are determining whether to keep the TL or put it up for sale?????

 

you are going to KEEP it for sure--or acura will revoke their very generous offer

if you have read any of this thread,,, you would know it comes in a `new design, may be used unit` case,,
new parts are installed for the wear-out items, and good hard parts are re-used from other trans
acura has several places that rebuild their stuff

and since you are paying the 100, it should come with a 3 year 36kmiles warranty
thats a score (if done for free only gets 12/12, they usually charge $300 for the warranty)

a fresh trans is like getting half a new car!!

did they find a bad motor mount? front is often blown and this is the time to replace--a few minutes of labor with trans removed

 

My Dad decided to just get the transmission rebuilt and the motor mounts done. He asked if he can do better on the 12/12k warranty. They gave him a 24/24k at no additional cost which I think sealed the deal for my him.

Not sure what parts he is going to use but the guy said that some of the parts he is using are not built by Acura. Again not sure what parts that means.

 

probably the much better aftermarket clutches

 

i never use SS mode so i don't know how that is, but i have 224k miles on the original transmission. it slips sometimes when im going up hills but i make the car downshift (or i go into D4) and things seem to work fine again.

i also don't have a led foot so i can't speak on any performance issues.

am i just being paranoid or is it really something to worry about?

 

it the rpm goes up without the car accellerating--up hill or getting on freeway hard throttle..thats actual clutch slipping
If it doesnt like to engage 2nd or 3rd and revs unless you let off the gas,,,bad news

check the trans fluid--color and smell?

 

My 3rd and 4th gear started slipping when warm at moderate acceleration. I hooked up my CarMD (no engine light is on) and the codes are P1456 (Evap Ctrl Sys Leakage) and P1740 (A/T 4th Pressure Switch Circuit). Related or unrelated? Last week, the dealer replaced the 4th gear pressure switch and cleared the codes. One week later, got the hard downshift to 2nd again, 3rd slips barely and 4th slips as bad as before, and both codes have returned. It went back to the dealer yesterday, and they're doing a smoke test to look for evap sys leak. I asked if leak would cause my symptoms and was told it could. I'm dubious. This is the service dept for the biggest Acura dealership in the country. Car is just under 75k, but as an '03 TL, it's just passed the extended A/T warranty of 7yrs 9mo. I regularly use SS to downshift 4th to 3rd on an offramp instead of brakes, but this is the only time I use it. Should I avoid this? You can bet I'll be asking for goodwill consideration--just started teaching my kid to drive it and it panicked her when the trans slipped-revved.

 

its toast
dealer tried to save it,, so that counts towards garnering goodwill in most cases

quit downshifting into 3rd or 2nd,,its the weak point on the trans and definetly makes the clutches wear out faster!!!!!

DO use the BRAKES to slow the car--thats what they are made for and much cheaper to replace!

trans downshifting should be limited to being in the right gear and rpm to be on the torque band at the apex of the corner

 

Car is done. Rides nice and smooth. They rebuilt it in two days. Was told to bring it back in two weeks so they can make sure everything is still smooth. :-)

Timing belt is next.

 

Dealer just called me back--cleaned out evaporation control stuff--could not find a leak with smoke test--reset P1456 code, and wanted to give me the car back without replacing anything, saving me money. Thanks, but not so fast, I said--you didn't fix the transmission problem! They apparently didn't duplicate the slipping 4th gear--it sat for 2 days and was cool. Thank goodness for this thread! I was armed with multiple examples that slippage is an early symptom of failure, manifesting itself more often when hot, and that others got replacements for the same car and problem. Now the service dept is keeping the car to test another day. I firmly asked them to test it harder and longer, not just a drive around the block. Every day delay lessens the likelihood of a goodwill replacement, right? I told them I'm an ACURA OWNER, and a stickler for perfection, and I won't be satisfied until it drives like it's supposed to.

 

Are the remanufactured trannys from H&A good to use as apposed to a shop rebuilding the tranny. This shop has rebuilt many TL's so he has experience and knows the problems with them. $2400 with 3yr warranty. To install a tranny from H&A then $2700 with 3 yr warranty. I think the H&A uses the new casing - I am not sure. Does anyone know? Thanks. dm

 

It's been a while since my Acura and I quess the tranny issue is living on sorry to hear.

 

acura uses the post 2005 made case on the rebuilds
but stays with whatever it gets a deal on in bulk for the soft wearout parts

aftermarket shops that know these trans will use the better `kevlar clutches`,,new selenoids etc

that price with 3/36 is a good deal

 

contact them and ask some questions!

 

The H&A site is http://hnatrans.com/. I will call them tomorrow to see if they use the "new case" design and what clutch packs they use. My tranny guy I am talking to who has done many TL's uses Acura parts

 

ask him if he uses the acura clutches ,,or just their general rebuild kit

 

Who makes the better clutches? Barnett makes them for motorcycles.

 

OK--tranny issue resolved. Dealership now agrees I need a new one, and goodwill offered was 3/4 of the bill, leaving me with $1100. Not as good as the $100 "deductible" I saw from an earlier post, but much better than splitting a $4200 bill. Now comes a week wait (or maybe a bit more, they say) to get it back.

 

My Tranny guy said he gets their refurbish kit - I think from honda. He said honda has worked on the problem of the paper on the clutches that eventually tear and peel from the heat which then leads to the clutches failing. That paper on the clutches helps the acuras have smooth shifts. dm

 

OH you ment H&A - they said they use OEM parts

 

Update - H&A uses all oem parts from acura that they need after testing the original parts including the electronic parts. But on the 3rd gear clutch pack they use a third party vender called Raybstos GPX. Their experience has shown that clutch lasts longer - is more heavy. Any thoughts? dm

 

New to the forum, found it because I'm researching some issues with my 99 TL. First was the miss fire codes, now I'm having a transmission issue! And I found this thread. This is heart breaking! Had the TL for little over a year, these are the first problems with the car. Has 141,000 miles. Chances of getting good will on a Transmission are slim probably.

My problem is reverse, I havn't noticed any problems in forward gears, but I have a bad grinding in reverse. The other day, a friend of mine said they saw a few sparks come from under the car!!!

I can't afford to have a shop or dealer replace it, so I'd look at having some friends help me do it. Problem is, I'd get a used part from a wrecking yard. So, that tranny could go at any time. Is there a different transmission that will fit in here, or with minor changes? Something reliable???

 

Just read on Wikipedia that the 2000 5 speed tramission was the one with the 3rd gear pack failing. The 99 had a 4 speed transmission, does that mean my car isn't have this terrible issue? Just a case of a mundane transmission failure?

 

may be several things- why not ck it over- have a pro diagnose if needed
rather than guess its the worst

 

My tranny went out today. I am original owner bought new 03 in 2002
2003 tl s nav with 60100 miles
Dealer quoted 2900.00 plus tax to replace, stated out of vin and years on trans warranty
Called acura customer support and got bill down to 2000.00 for new tranny, 2 new motor mounts and 3/36 tranny warranty
Still love my car, not happy paying 2g for repair, but have had no other problems with it last 9 yrs and no other car interests me at my cars value of 10g.

 

Is it new or remanufactured?

I decided to take my TL to the dealer anyway for diagnosis, and I was quoted $1400 total (they were gonna cover 60%), but I couldn't return the transmission that I'd already bought (07 AV6)....oh well.

Anyway, so far, so good. I printed out about removing/changing the trans range switch from the FSM to give to the shop. So far, the shop I'm using told me they've successfully switched over the ATF filter assembly and the trans range switch...

 

Dealer replacement transmissions are remanufactured. All wear items (clutches, etc) are replaced, however.

 

That's what I thought too. He said "new" so I was just curious.

 

Need Help. Whats an ECU chip? Acura is telling me that needs replacement as well - separate from tranny - another $1500 or something - for a total of $5100. What is it and does it have to be replaced as well? Thanks you in advance. dm