Replacing Radiator - What else should I do?

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Old May 22, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Replacing Radiator - What else should I do?

2002 TL-S with 260k miles. I'm replacing the radiator due to a leaking top tank. Also replacing the upper and lower hoses since they are so difficult to get to.

What other items should be replaced while I have the access and am waiting for the radiator to be delivered? Are there any items that are known to be issues and should be pre-emptively replaced?
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Old May 22, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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When I did a cooling system service on mine, I replaced the radiator cap, thermostat (comes with gasket), upper & lower rad hoses. The temperature sensor is also good to replace if you like.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Yeah, do everything Victus1 has advised..... and all will be well, if the damage hasn't already been done due to the leak and overheating. Make sure that you flush the coolant system and use a quality coolant specific formula compatible to aluminum. Get the Honda 2 stage T-stat and replace the hose clamps. Check the fans and burp the system of air.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I did do the hoses along with the radiator and cap, but not the sensor. Are you referring to the sensor in the radiator bottom tank?

I don't believe the radiator was run dry or the engine overheated - for having 253,xxx miles it runs like a champ.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by smcafee
Are you referring to the sensor in the radiator bottom tank? .

I had to look in the Service Manual to answer your question. That sensor at the bottom of the rad is called the Radiator Fan Switch "C" (pg. 10-3, 10-34).
The ECT (engine coolant temperature sensor) is located behind the thermostat housing. The PCM uses the ECT to control shifting of the transmission and to determine the amount of injected fuel. So it’s a good idea to replace it as it's a thermistor that degrades its output resistance with age. Actually, after looking up this info for you, I have decided to replace it on my TL.

Pg. 11-93 of the Service Manual shows the various sensors used by the ECM to manage fuel and the performance of the engine/trans. I can imagine that some folks who report performance problems that are difficult to diagnose could be related to the degradation of these sensors which output slightly-off voltages to the ECM. And if no error codes are thrown by the ECM, good luck trying to diagnose your problem if you don't even consider checking all these various sensors.

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Follow up... make sure you bleed the air from the system by running at 2000 rpm for 5-10 minutes with the radiator cap off. I didn't and the engine would occasionally die at a stop.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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Looks like all the high points have been covered but just in case there may be some one that doesn't know if your using antifreeze that is not pre-mixed with water do not use water from your garden hose the chlorine and other chemicals that are it the water can cause real problems in the engine.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Yeah, use distilled water and a 50:50 ratio for best results.
P.S.> Try to get the silicate free coolant specially formulated for aluminum alloys.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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I was browsing a parts listing the other day, and noticed there's a cushion on both the bottom and top of the radiator mounting locations. Has anyone changed these out when replacing the radiator? Seems like they could get old and hardened with age.
Also noticed Amazon sells an OEM Denso radiator for our cars at less than $100. Anyone care to comment on getting their replacement from Amazon?
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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^the third gen's OEM radiator is made by Denso.
I wouldn't be surprised if its the same case for the 2nd gen
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Hey RJheiss, as Justnspace said "Denso" is an OEM supplier and a reputable brand. I've personally always had good luck with any Amazon purchases. $100 is really a good price on the rad. Check the S & H charges and compare total locally.

Ya may also want to consider U & L hoses and a new T-stat while you're in there.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 3.2TLc
Hey RJheiss, as Justnspace said "Denso" is an OEM supplier and a reputable brand. I've personally always had good luck with any Amazon purchases. $100 is really a good price on the rad. Check the S & H charges and compare total locally.

Ya may also want to consider U & L hoses and a new T-stat while you're in there.
I don't need a radiator just yet, and my next project is all the hoses, t-stat with gasket. The Amazon price was less than $100 with free shipping, but Amazon just started charging NJ sales tax. They opened a couple new distribution centers here and the Gov upped his standing donut order. I'm tempted to place an order for the radiator at this price, but I'm sure someone will come along and total the car as soon as the radiator is on my shelf.
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