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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Outside Temp displays "---"

The outside temperature indicator on my 2003 TL-S doesn't display a temperature. The start of this seemed to coincide with the fact that my hood was not completely locked down while driving for a short bit until I noticed it. From what I have been able to find searching here is that the sensor is located somewhere near the engine or radiator. I'm figuring that a lead may have come loose or disconnected from the wind during highway driving with the hood cracked.

Can anyone tell me where exactly to look to see if this is the case? Thanks,

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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I have heard on carspace.com that this could lead to your battery getting drained. Get this resolved sooner than later.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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its located below the latch. Its small and if memory remembers correctly like the size of a AA batttery.

And yes it can lead to a draining battery. i had one that would cause the battery to go dead every 2 days (mine was due to wiring from the swap)
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
its located below the latch. Its small and if memory remembers correctly like the size of a AA batttery.

And yes it can lead to a draining battery. i had one that would cause the battery to go dead every 2 days (mine was due to wiring from the swap)
You have any tips for removing it? I cant seem to pull it out.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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You have any tips for removing it? I cant seem to pull it out.
did you remove the plastic guard that covers the front with the hood open?
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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I tried just pulling it out. Is there any clips or anything? I also had my front bumper re-painted and there is paint all over the sensor.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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It is a clip on sensor. You need to gently pry the tab in the back to remove it.

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I tried just pulling it out. Is there any clips or anything? I also had my front bumper re-painted and there is paint all over the sensor.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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I can't remember exactly on the top of my head, but I think the tab is on the front of that sensor. Either case, you do need to lift the tab to pull it out.

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It is a clip on sensor. You need to gently pry the tab in the back to remove it.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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I got it out and put a brand new one in but it still displays "---". any ideas?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 01:16 AM
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Try to adjust it and see what happens. Hold down the two trip reset sticks, and turn key to on position and adjut to +1.

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I got it out and put a brand new one in but it still displays "---". any ideas?
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Try to adjust it and see what happens. Hold down the two trip reset sticks, and turn key to on position and adjut to +1.
I believe that is to reset the maintenance required light. But i tried it anyway and no luck. There has to be another way
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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It does two things if you hold them down before and after.
Did you get the number to change on the temp display? It could be the sensor is bad, or bad connector. Unplug it and what do you see?

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I believe that is to reset the maintenance required light. But i tried it anyway and no luck. There has to be another way
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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Hey I had CD stuck in my radio so I decide to pull everthing apart to but when I putt everthing back together ( double check all conectors) my A/C stop working and outside temp shows "---"
Any help
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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and I just realized that A/C button on my navigation dont react eather
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by acutee
It does two things if you hold them down before and after.
Did you get the number to change on the temp display? It could be the sensor is bad, or bad connector. Unplug it and what do you see?
I just installed a brand new sensor and i also did the reset button to adjust the temp and i see the adjustment numbers but then is goes right back to --- as soon as i let go.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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I am not sure, but unless you want to try, pull the battery cable to reset it. The sensor is tied in with the HVAC system and the air mixture control, and fan speed control. So, resetting it could resolve the problem.

Make sure you have your radio code ready, and switch radio to AM before you disconnect the cable.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acutee
I am not sure, but unless you want to try, pull the battery cable to reset it. The sensor is tied in with the HVAC system and the air mixture control, and fan speed control. So, resetting it could resolve the problem.

Make sure you have your radio code ready, and switch radio to AM before you disconnect the cable.
I disconnected the battery and reconnected it and it still displays --- What else can it be?
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Just an update.... I tried all of the above and it stills displays "---". Its kinda bothering me. Any ideas?
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Sounds like either the wiring may be bad or the display on the cluster is bad.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Sounds like either the wiring may be bad or the display on the cluster is bad.
If i can see the numbers when i adjust the temp wouldn't that mean the cluster is working? Where do i start to check the wires?
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by leo99
If i can see the numbers when i adjust the temp wouldn't that mean the cluster is working? Where do i start to check the wires?
I would start with where it connects to the sensor. I dont have the manual here but i know i posted the testing procedure once before for someone. Try doing a search and see if you can find it.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Try this. Self diagnostic built into the climate control unit.

While car in on but not running push auto and off buttons at the same time for a minute. The section where the temp displays will show alternating "88" and a code or codes.

Looking at the manual either one of the top parts of the "88" is the indicators for the outside air temp circuit. The left top one means there's an open and the right top one means there's a short.

Just somewhere to start. If that doesn't work I can tell you which connector to check to find the broken wire(s).
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
Try this. Self diagnostic built into the climate control unit.

While car in on but not running push auto and off buttons at the same time for a minute. The section where the temp displays will show alternating "88" and a code or codes.

Looking at the manual either one of the top parts of the "88" is the indicators for the outside air temp circuit. The left top one means there's an open and the right top one means there's a short.

Just somewhere to start. If that doesn't work I can tell you which connector to check to find the broken wire(s).
Ok i did what you said and this is what i got. It was flashing...



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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Looks like the bottom of the first 8 is flashing. According to the manual "A problem in the air mix control linkage, door, or motor". None of those correspond to your original question.

Was there any others flashing? If multiple problems exist there will be more than one section flashing.

Thanks for the pics.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
Looks like the bottom of the first 8 is flashing. According to the manual "A problem in the air mix control linkage, door, or motor". None of those correspond to your original question.

Was there any others flashing? If multiple problems exist there will be more than one section flashing.

Thanks for the pics.
Well actually there is a problem with my door lock. Which i believe might be the source of my no starting problems sometimes as well. I think this might be the culprit. My left rear door doesn't lock with the factory remote or when i attempt to lock it from the driver side sometimes. I have to fiscally push the lock down but sometimes it just comes right back up when all the other doors are lock. My car wont beep or flash the lights when i try to lock it with the factory remote and this happens. As far as the engine goes I just did a sea foam treatment so my check engine light is on. So that might explain everything. Wow I Hope this is the problem to my no starting problem. I changed the ignition switch, main relay, tested the whole electrical system, and changed the plugs to solve that problem. Thank you. Where should i start?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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As far as the door locks it sounds like a failing actuator.

Are you saying you got the code checked and fixed? What was it?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
As far as the door locks it sounds like a failing actuator.

Are you saying you got the code checked and fixed? What was it?
Are you asking about the CEL? It says the 02 senser. which is typical when you use seafoam. Are you sure about the door lock? And all of this has nothing to do with the outside temp display tho...
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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I had the same door lock problem with my drivers door so I replaced it and now my passenger rear is doing the same thing. Sometimes it opens sometimes it doesn't.

Back to your original problem are you aware of how to test the connectors for broken connections?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
I had the same door lock problem with my drivers door so I replaced it and now my passenger rear is doing the same thing. Sometimes it opens sometimes it doesn't.

Back to your original problem are you aware of how to test the connectors for broken connections?
I have no idea. Where do i start?
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