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Old 03-12-2010, 08:57 PM
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wrong feeler gauge or the cylinder wasnt at TDC when u were doing the adjustment
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well i used a craftsmen feeler gauge. i used .22 for intake and .30 for exhaust. and i put the mark on the cam with the mark on the timing cover. i first set it to cylinder 1 than turned it til 4 than 2 than 5 than 3 than 6 and after i was done i put it back to 1 and started the car and thats what it started doing
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i guess ima just go buy me a new feeler gauge and redo the job. its was a b!tch adjusting the valves in the rear
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when u were turning it, u sure u didnt turn it and somehow go past the mark then turned it back a little it so the lines line up? that will give u a wrong reading. was the engine stone cold?
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Also did you make sure that you had the crank mark at 0 and the front cam at #1? If you just had the cam at 1 you may be off by 180 deg.
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Being off my 180 will cause some serious damage when he starts the car. And I doubt that he would be able to adjust all valves on that cyl if he was off by 180
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Originally Posted by Rajca
when u were turning it, u sure u didnt turn it and somehow go past the mark then turned it back a little it so the lines line up? that will give u a wrong reading. was the engine stone cold?
i did go past the mark but it was prob about this far off |--| it was even a lil less than that
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Also did you make sure that you had the crank mark at 0 and the front cam at #1? If you just had the cam at 1 you may be off by 180 deg.
i didnt check the crank i only had the cam at #1
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Being off my 180 will cause some serious damage when he starts the car. And I doubt that he would be able to adjust all valves on that cyl if he was off by 180
so you think i cause some damage? and i cant find a go no go feeler gauge anywhere. they only got the straght flat ones they dont got any that is bent in the front
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thats a lot that u went past. u dont need a go no go feeler gauge.i picked the smallest spec and that worked for me. adjusted it till their was some tension on the gauge.
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Originally Posted by Rajca
thats a lot that u went past. u dont need a go no go feeler gauge.i picked the smallest spec and that worked for me. adjusted it till their was some tension on the gauge.
what do you mean thats alot that i went past?
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yes. it has to be dead on. our engines are very picky
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Originally Posted by Rajca
yes. it has to be dead on. our engines are very picky
so will i have to redo all the valves again?
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yup, and hope that u didnt mess anything up
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yup, and hope that u didnt mess anything up
im really hoping it would suck if i did because i didnt save anything from the last motor that was in the car. i knew i should have saved the head of the other motor
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to put the crank at tdc i gotta align the middle mark on the crank with the arrow on the cover right?
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what i do it rotate it till #1 mark on the cam is with the mark on the housing, then see if u can move moth rocker arms up and down slightly with ur hand. that means that both valves are closed and ur at TDC. or do what kris said with the crank
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how do i make sure the crank is at 0?
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the mark. read what kris said
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so i broke one of the bolts that holds the valve cover to the head. i broke one of the short ones right underneth the intake manifold. would i be ok or will what can i do?
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so i rechecked the valves and everything was good.
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how does it run?

my tl wont stop misfiring no matter what i do to it today. go wot, still misfires, usually it will be all good once i break the wheels and rpms shoot up. gonna run a compression test tomorrow
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it feels like i kinda lost power a lil bit. its still sounds like a knocking sound kinda.. ill try and post a video for you later
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Stop now. Align the crank to TDC, make sure the #1 cam mark is spot on. It cant be off by any bit. If a little bit didnt matter then the little bit you needed for adjusting the valves wouldnt matter. Make sure every thing is aligned, get the feeler gauge out and make sure every one is in spec again. When you adjust each one make sure the line is set perfect before adjusting.
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been busy last weekend so i didnt touch teh tl. but the fast two days it drove great. until early this morning when i hit something on teh street or a curb. took my eyes off the road for 3sec and then bam. felt like i blew a tires i pull over and blew both pass side tires, shock is garbage, upper control arm is garbage. lower control arm is in teh shape of a banana (should be straight), radius rod is bent, inner fender cover is garbage, fender is bent a bit, axle is garbage. what a bad way to start the morning. was late to work and had to get the tl towed home.

also front rim is scratched up to hell FML
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Daym. You arent having good luck
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not with the tl that is.
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Wth did you hit??
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Either debris on the road or a curb. But I don't understand how my rear tire blew out if I hit a curb? I was doing 45-50mph (speed limit basically). But it happened. What pissed me off was that the cop that showed up gave me a ticket for improper lane usage. What fuckin bs. I told him nothing happened and I'm getting the car towed home. So he check what I could have hit and doesn't know either so he writes up some bs. Fuck the cops. The screwed me over so many times
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Go to court and see if they will drop it. Maybe the cop won't even show up. Nothing to lose right?
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im just gonna pay for it and get it over with. i dont have to to bs around

found out the sway bar is bent fml

this is the lower control arm, top is new. bottom is old bent one

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is the lower ball joint busted too? theres alot of grease where it goes on the old arm.
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its not busted. but i did get two tires and when they tried to balance the front rim it was asking for 15 ounces on the inside of the rim and 18 ounces in teh middle. it was literally an oval shape. anyone have a tl type s rim? condition doesnt matter as long as its round and not cracked
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after putting everything back together, the tires hits the top of the knuckle. so now i need a new one of those.
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and also need two new rims instead of 1, im about to total the tl. just fuckin one problem after another.
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ouch
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Tl

I have a '03 TL Type S, 73000 miles and I've been having the same frustrating misfire situation that you do. Rough at idle, sluggish exceleration, throwing up misfire codes (unsure which ones). Brought it to Acura who said I needed a valve adjustment. Did that as well as change plugs & clean EGR and a day later it started happening again.

Mechanic told me the next step might be replacing the EGR.

Have you figured out what's causing it yet? I'm afraid I'll end up dumping lots of money into things that aren't going to fix the problem. Can't afford it since I have no knowledge to fix it myself and have to take it to a shop for everything.
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i also replaced the egr and still had a misfire. its either an injector or ecu/wiring problem that i have narrowed it down to
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This is from the service report when I had a similar shaking problem 100k miles ago:

CEL, shakes at 1.5k rpm - misfire code, EGR stuck closed - Valve Set EGR
Random Misfire - Remove plentum, clean carbon from intake - Air Intake BG
Looks like you've been there already.
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just a bit of an update. knuckle looked good. axle was shot. so replaced teh axle put everything back together. go to start the car. and i got no power. no where. no light, no crank, nothing. car is completely powerless. go to get a jump from another car and still got nothing. thinking its a loose ground somewhere. idk. its one problem after another with this car.FML


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