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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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wtf? Quit spamming threads with completely irrelevant shit



edit- oops, forgot this-
stfu pussy

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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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^^^ lol late... But I do have to agree... lets just cruise
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM Inspired
stfu pussy


You just saw that?? lmao
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 02type-s


You just saw that?? lmao
lol yeh.....
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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well i dont know i have the same problem last year i ran 17.1 than i did seafoam and it went down to 16.4-16.5
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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spark plugs egr port cleaning thats all try it you'll see
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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id say user error.. i run my car bone stock and i get high 15's.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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same.. i've even ran 15.4 bone stock. on overdue tires
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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^i forgot but what car did you have? people say i get slow time because of elevation. there was this one corvette (06+) at the track and he said he runs almost a second slower than what he does at sea level.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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hey but thinhthan your car looks great i hope i can make mine somewhat like yours
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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All of you guys are so funny!!!! I can't believe only 1 of you people out of everyone in this thread knew the answer as to why he runs low 17's. Crazymonkey is the only one that knew it? I am suprised. Anyway for the facts: He ran a 17.2 due to the altitude. The track that he ran at is 5200+FT above sea level. Factor in pressure, humidity, temperature and I bet his DA is way above 6000ft. His 17.2 is normal there. At sea level he would be in the 15's. Even here in Tucson where I run its 3075ft and the DA was 4200ft on the day that I ran. At sea level I would run .8 tenths of a second faster and add about 5MPH for my time. It is easier to correct your 1/4 mile time if you know the DA, which there is a calculator for on dragtimes.com. You need to know the conditions of the day which you can find out online. type in the info into the calculator and it will give you your DA. then you type in your 1/4 mile time and MPH and it will show you an estimated time that you would run in more optimal conditions.

OP- There is nothing wrong with your TL. That is normal for Denver!
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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All of you guys are so funny!!!! I can't believe only 1 of you people out of everyone in this thread knew the answer as to why he runs low 17's. Crazymonkey is the only one that knew it? I am suprised. Anyway for the facts: He ran a 17.2 due to the altitude. The track that he ran at is 5200+FT above sea level. Factor in pressure, humidity, temperature and I bet his DA is way above 6000ft. His 17.2 is normal there. At sea level he would be in the 15's. Even here in Tucson where I run its 3075ft and the DA was 4200ft on the day that I ran. At sea level I would run .8 tenths of a second faster and add about 5MPH for my time. It is easier to correct your 1/4 mile time if you know the DA, which there is a calculator for on dragtimes.com. You need to know the conditions of the day which you can find out online. type in the info into the calculator and it will give you your DA. then you type in your 1/4 mile time and MPH and it will show you an estimated time that you would run in more optimal conditions.

OP- There is nothing wrong with your TL. That is normal for Denver!
x2, i was going to post something like that , not quite a good as an explanation though, but yeah the altitude kills the power here (live in Denver also), and from a day to day basis, we are probably down a good 15-20% down on power then everyone at sea level (so like 40+ HP on a type-s )


force inducted cars are not as affected by the altitude, but they still lose power also
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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we are probably down a good 15-20% down on power then everyone at sea level (so like 40+ HP on a type-s )
Yes it is something like that. When I did my calculation using the calculator on Dragtimes it showed my honda was running at 89% where I ran at SIR on that day. 11% is HUGE!!!

Originally Posted by friesm2000
force inducted cars are not as affected by the altitude, but they still lose power also
This is very true!
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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try the climb to 11000 ft (and the speed limit is 75 btw) at the westbound entrance to the eisenhower tower on I-70, just when you actually want the additional power
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by friesm2000
try the climb to 11000 ft (and the speed limit is 75 btw) at the westbound entrance to the eisenhower tower on I-70, just when you actually want the additional power
wat do you mean i went up that hill doing 80 in forth no problem at all, and i have 150k.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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ok so i guess my car is normal.. well i plan on puttin a new engine into it casue it has 19xxxx miles on it im planning on building a j35 with a j32 type s head
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
All of you guys are so funny!!!! I can't believe only 1 of you people out of everyone in this thread knew the answer as to why he runs low 17's. Crazymonkey is the only one that knew it? I am suprised. Anyway for the facts: He ran a 17.2 due to the altitude. The track that he ran at is 5200+FT above sea level. Factor in pressure, humidity, temperature and I bet his DA is way above 6000ft. His 17.2 is normal there. At sea level he would be in the 15's. Even here in Tucson where I run its 3075ft and the DA was 4200ft on the day that I ran. At sea level I would run .8 tenths of a second faster and add about 5MPH for my time. It is easier to correct your 1/4 mile time if you know the DA, which there is a calculator for on dragtimes.com. You need to know the conditions of the day which you can find out online. type in the info into the calculator and it will give you your DA. then you type in your 1/4 mile time and MPH and it will show you an estimated time that you would run in more optimal conditions.

OP- There is nothing wrong with your TL. That is normal for Denver!
most of that has been discussed in here.. but elevation does not account for the AMOUNT of time he's off..

its not just .8 tenths of a second here.. he is 1.5-1.75 seconds off... thats more then elevation IMO.. but i guess we'll never know really.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jrm1508
wat do you mean i went up that hill doing 80 in forth no problem at all, and i have 150k.
you know what i mean


it can still go, but it is still severely down on power though
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
most of that has been discussed in here.. but elevation does not account for the AMOUNT of time he's off..

its not just .8 tenths of a second here.. he is 1.5-1.75 seconds off... thats more then elevation IMO.. but i guess we'll never know really.
I don't think you completely understand. The .8 tenths of a second was my correction for my 1/4 mile time. I was showing an example of what elevation, DA, humidity, temperature and other conditions do to 1/4 mile times. My DA was 4200+Ft. His DA is going to be 6000ft +. His elevation at the track is I think 5200ft. He can find out what his exact DA is and that will determine the correction factor. 1.5 - 1.75 seconds off is normal for him at the track in Denver. So in reality we will know if he does the correction. He just needs to use the dragtimes.com calculator and he can get the conditions of the day he ran and enter in his elevation. that will give him a correct time for sea level and optimal conditions.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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track would be Bandimere Speedway; here is a straight link to their site:
http://bandimere.com/services/trackFacts.php

and the track is at a elevation of 5800' by their data


BTW: the grass next to the track in the picture is never that green
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by friesm2000
track would be Bandimere Speedway; here is a straight link to their site:
http://bandimere.com/services/trackFacts.php

and the track is at a elevation of 5800' by their data


BTW: the grass next to the track in the picture is never that green
thanks for the info! Even higher than I though so that really solidifies his 17.2
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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yeah my old 94 accord lx auto could only run mid 18's here iirc (i know it was in the 18's though) completely stock with the motor running good (and only like 85k miles on it too)

and that was with torque braking (loading the toque converter up to stall speed) the tranny too, before launching

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