real gains from cai/sr?
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real gains from cai/sr?
I know you're gonna say search but it's really hard to sift thru all the bs threads about intakes to find what i'm looking for. My question is what are the hp/tq gains from installing a cai or sr intake? Does anyone have a dyno showing their gains? I bought my car a few years ago with a cone filter replacing the airbox and was thinking of upgrading to a real intake. I see that everyone swears by the cai but once the car is moving aren't the temp difference negligible?
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There is little to no gains from a sri...cai on the other hand yields good gains. If I had to guess it'd be from 4-8 hp. From what I understand, you can feel it throughout the powerband...Both sri and cai bring a totally different sound to the table though...I'm sure there are dyno sheets with proof floating around here somewhere.
The cai run behind the front bumper, while the sri is in the engine bay...So the sri can only suck in hot air being thrown off the engine, which means little to no gains. The cai is consistently drawing in cool, denser air which in turn is more power, so even in the hottest conditions, lets say Arizona summer time for example, the air being drawn in will still be cooler than the air in your engine bay.
The cai run behind the front bumper, while the sri is in the engine bay...So the sri can only suck in hot air being thrown off the engine, which means little to no gains. The cai is consistently drawing in cool, denser air which in turn is more power, so even in the hottest conditions, lets say Arizona summer time for example, the air being drawn in will still be cooler than the air in your engine bay.
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im on the same boat as you kiluminati616, i too am looking to upgrade my intake and was debating whether or not to go cai or sr. from what ive read, cai gives better gains but not by an astonishing amount. i dont know how much you already know but just saying its not a huge performance upgrade. the real change ive read is that a new intake gives a better sound and cai might be better for mileage. so to partially answer your question, cai is overall a little better. i dont have any proof by experimentation, but its what ive accepted.
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I didn't really think of the improvement in mileage. If I can get an extra 2mpg the thing would pay for itself in like a year. Can anyone confirm what kind of improved fuel efficiency they got?
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lets just say i have 170k miles on my a1, before cai installed i was getting roughly 300-310 miles before fuel light came on, today i finished off my first tank since installing the cai with 363 miles before the fuel light came on (and that's with a few WOT runs). i do mixed driving lot of highway/country backroads and a little bit of city driving.
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Cool I think I'll look into gettin that injen intake this spring. I've already got xs headers so it should help even more than just putting an intake on...i think. Just ordered the timing belt kit from kaleb (WholesalePartsGuy) and was wondering if it would be easy to toss on the UR underdrive pulley while that's being done?
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Cool I think I'll look into gettin that injen intake this spring. I've already got xs headers so it should help even more than just putting an intake on...i think. Just ordered the timing belt kit from kaleb (WholesalePartsGuy) and was wondering if it would be easy to toss on the UR underdrive pulley while that's being done?
yes go ahead and get lightweight pulley because you are going to have to pull off the crank pulley to gain access to the timing belt.
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By simply removing the intake resonator, you are automatically drawing cooler air from behind the bumper. The CAI only drops down a few more inches, and the stock air box and tube to the TB provide more than adequate air flow - the tube is just as large as a CAI tube. You can get a stock-size K&N filter for the air box if you want, or just a good quality higher-flow filter like WIX.
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By simply removing the intake resonator, you are automatically drawing cooler air from behind the bumper. The CAI only drops down a few more inches, and the stock air box and tube to the TB provide more than adequate air flow - the tube is just as large as a CAI tube. You can get a stock-size K&N filter for the air box if you want, or just a good quality higher-flow filter like WIX.
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Never said they were the same. Just sayin they both pull air from the same area, and both provide good volume. A CAI reduces turbulence, but I don't think that's a big concern with these intakes; there is already about 18 inches of straight travel between the stock air box and the intake runners. It's not like a CAI is forced induction; it sucks air just like the stock air box. I think $300 could be spent on something better than a CAI.
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CAI are a great mod IMO. Yes they are expensive for what they do, but a good quality CAI both performs and looks nice and that's a great combo. I'd say it's the most common mod on any car. So for that reason I absolutely would not state it's a waste of money. Just like a rims aren't a big mistake. Chrome rims look nice, but can slow you down because of their weight. It's really all subjective, but considering this is a car forum most people here are enthusiasts so stuff like this is almost necessary. You can never have enough mods (if you have the cash).
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Agreed they do look good and serve a good purpose. Just not the first place I would spend big bucks. I took out my resonator and am pleased with the results. My first big wad will go towards headers, not a CAI.
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Never said they were the same. Just sayin they both pull air from the same area, and both provide good volume. A CAI reduces turbulence, but I don't think that's a big concern with these intakes; there is already about 18 inches of straight travel between the stock air box and the intake runners. It's not like a CAI is forced induction; it sucks air just like the stock air box. I think $300 could be spent on something better than a CAI.
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lets just say i have 170k miles on my a1, before cai installed i was getting roughly 300-310 miles before fuel light came on, today i finished off my first tank since installing the cai with 363 miles before the fuel light came on (and that's with a few WOT runs). i do mixed driving lot of highway/country backroads and a little bit of city driving.
sorry dumb question but does WOT stand for Working over time ?? as in really stepping on it ?
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