ok ive only had the tl for about a month soo i dont know much, but alot of people have told me to remove my mid mufflers and put on some tsudo axle back exhaust for a deeeper tone in my car exhaust. but the problem is i dont know much about the mid muffler and what to replace it with and where its located..ughhh sorry for being soo cluelesss ! help?

Look under the car. Mid muffler is just rear of the cat. You can get an exhaust shop to weld a straight pipe in place of that.

damnit, i need a picture..hahaha soo instead of the mid muffler, the straight pipe plus the tsudo axle back should give me that good sound to my exhaust huh ? what else should i do?

Do a search. There's a thread with multiple youtube clips of different set ups and how they sound. Pick the one you want and do a search on it.

in your opinion, do you think i should remove the resonator too ? or should i just keep the resonator as it is and just remove the mid muffler and add on an axleback?

i heard by removing the resonator, it gives it a little rasp and thats not good, unless you like it, and it gives it a louder drone too, so the midmuffler should be alright if you dont want people thinking of you as rice, like i mean the tsudos are loud enough for me. pm if you interested, im selling mine for a good price.

do it. Reese did, and his car sounds great with this setup

remove the mid muffler.. and if u want more muffler sound get the tsudo..although i heard they r loud...

sooo what should i do first ? remove mid mufflers or get the axleback..ima do things one at a time.

if i were you i would pick up a greddy evo 2 cat back, they have that nice deep tone to it, but that is just my OPINION.

a link would be great to the catback

^^^ dont listen to this guy dude he doesnt know jack, first off, the cat he is showing you is for a 3g tl which wouldnt fit ours, then if your going to pay that much, you mine as well buy ATLP, which is the best exhaust for our cars, stated by 100s of our members. and if you want no performance gains and a nice sound and keeping it pretty cheap, then go with the mid muff delete and tsudo. Tsudo mufflers will run you about 200 if your lucky to 320 if you wanna buy new, and the mid muffler delete at a muffler shop wont cost you more than 80, if its more then DONT go there, seriously 60 bucks should be your maximum offer on a mid muff delete, and thats only if your desparate

thank you kobeeee ! some shop told me 90. and i was like ima call some othr places to see if i can get anything lower than 90 for mid muffler delete.

If youre gonna get tsudos eventually then just weld off the midmuffler and the resonator. If you were using stock mufflers and had midmuff and resonator delete then it would be raspy, but once you stick on tsudos, its perfect. Not raspy and its louder than just midmuff delete. This is the setup I have, and I love its great. Much louder than just midmuff delete.
Here's a link, not very clear cuz I should have held the camera lower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReUZj...layer_embedded

just keep resonator... i bought my car without it... i with pre owner never took it out....

as soon as i added headers... with cat str8 to stock mufflers... i sounded like a civic when i gased half way or more ..it rasp around 3 grand...

now i added comptech axleback... n i tiny rasp at 3 grand again....but this time only when i flr it

im actually going to ADD a resonator..

hey azn..soo your saying i shouldnt get my mid muffler delete ? a tsudo will be just fine?!

depends how loud you want it... just tsudo with stock pipe with resonator with mid muffler...decent sound...no drone.. .. remove mid louder.. lil drone.... remove mid n resonator..LOUD...DRONE..

noobie question. what is a drone.

i have the tsudo and the resignator delete with a magnaflow high flow cat and it sounds really good i would recomend it, res delete is cheap i paid $40 to remove it and put a straight pipe

Drone is like a constant hummm from your exhaust. Like when you accelerate up from 0 to 3k rpm, it has a constant exhaust sound. Some people like it, some don't. Even if you take off the resonator and midmuffler, drone isnt even that bad. The droning only stays constant when you on lower rpm. You can still listen to your music.

If you want it to be a nice loud, just straight pipe everything AFTER the cats and get some tsudos. Changing cats can fck with smog check and might be raspy.

Ok Phidboi, what do you want most out of your exhaust setup, loud (midmuff/resonator delete), moderate(middmuff delete), low (no delete)<---all with tsudos.