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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Exclamation HELP:: installing new spark plugs

I just bought new NGK Iridium IX's for my 03 TL-S and I want to install them this weekend

I've searched and searched for a DIY to install spark plugs, and I think I remember seeing one before... but I can't find it now!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated... tools needed, procedure, etc.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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yea there was a detailed explanation to do it but since the upgrade theres no chance on finding anything using search

its pretty simple, the front three are easy u need 3in and 6in socket extension, take the coil off, take out the plug, insert new one, repeat

i recommend u buy a pen magnet like this to get the plugs out:
http://www.modelfixings.co.uk/images/magnet_pen.gif

made things so much easier, especially in the rear since it didnt want to stay on the socket

good luck
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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or if you've got one you could use a simple spark plug socket.....its extra deep and has a rubber washer in the bottom to grab the end so you can pull it. i believe the allen key needed to remove the eletrical over the socket(what's that call again?) is 6mm.

you may want to look into some anti-sieze compound too. those threads are very valuable to you and it would be a bad thing to break off a plug in there later.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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^ or that, but the rubber in my socket was old and worn and wouldnt hold the plug and i had one of those magnets laying around so it worked for me
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Don't forget to check the gap on those plugs.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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DO NOT CHECK THE GAP ON THE PLUGS!!! THEY ARE PERFECT AND DO NOT NEED GAPPING.

use the allen wrench to take out the coils, use your socket with an extension to loosen the plugs, slide a rubber hose down there (buy it from autozone), and viola. repeat the steps backwards and your done. DO NOT overtighten the plugs, be very gentle and you shouldnt have a problem
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phee
DO NOT CHECK THE GAP ON THE PLUGS!!! THEY ARE PERFECT AND DO NOT NEED GAPPING.

use the allen wrench to take out the coils, use your socket with an extension to loosen the plugs, slide a rubber hose down there (buy it from autozone), and viola. repeat the steps backwards and your done. DO NOT overtighten the plugs, be very gentle and you shouldnt have a problem
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. You'd be surprised how many "pre-gapped" plugs have incorrect gaps. It never hurts to double-check.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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The TL plugs come with the super fine wire, and are NOT able to be gapped with a standard gauge/tool
As long as the cardboard end cap is in place on th eplug when you open the box, just visually inspect plug for flattened electrode- if not, its good to go as is!
NGK is really good about this.

Change tips: use a 3 and 6 inch extension for the rear plugs, you may have to lower the socket and 3 inch into the hole first for access room, then attach the next extension and ratchet.
Use a rubber hose (vacuum tubing) slipped on the top end of the new plug to lower it in the hole-- and start the threads by fingertip feel- you dont want to cross-thread the plugs!!! thats bad news~

I suggest do a front to learn where and how it all fits together
Then the rears - then the easy fronts to finish the job

Tightening direction on box for hand method or torque to 13 foot pounds
Change plugs with engine cold only!!- aluminum threads- temp changes- incorrrect torque---
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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thanks for all the help, y'all... i'm pretty confident I can do this now, so out to the car i go...
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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This is straight from NGK's website:

3. Gapping

Since the gap size has a direct affect on the spark plug's tip temperature
and on the voltage necessary to ionize (light) the air/fuel mixture, careful attention is required. While it is a popular misconception that plugs are pre-gapped from the factory, the fact remains that the gap must be adjusted for the vehicle that the spark plug is intended for. Those with modified engines must remember that a modified engine with higher compression or forced induction will typically require a smaller gap settings (to ensure ignitability
in these denser air/fuel mixtures). As a rule, the more power you are making, the smaller the gap you will need.

A spark plug's voltage requirement is directly proportionate to the gap size. The larger the gap, the more voltage is needed to bridge the gap. Most experienced tuners know that opening gaps up to present a larger spark to the air/fuel mixture maximizes burn efficiency. It is for this reason that most racers add high power ignition systems. The added power allows them to open the gap yet still provide a strong spark.

With this mind, many think the larger the gap the better. In fact, some aftermarket ignition systems boast that their systems can tolerate gaps that are extreme. Be wary of such claims. In most cases, the largest gap you can run may still be smaller than you think.
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...x.asp?mode=nml
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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I do have one question, at about 2 pm I took a 10 minute drive to the parts store, was in the store for 10-15 mins, and then a 10 minute drive back. How long do I need to wait for the engine to cool before installing plugs?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Alright well I just switched out my plugs. Idle is much better and response is seemingly a little bit better also. My car has a little bit less than 55,000 miles. Here are some pics of my old plugs:





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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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only take the spark plugs out with the engine cold.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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55k? looks like you were running super rich
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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I wonder why? I bought the car used, so I don't know what was done to it before I got it.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGala
This is straight from NGK's website:

Quote:
3. Gapping

Since the gap size has a direct affect on the spark plug's tip temperature
and on the voltage necessary to ionize (light) the air/fuel mixture, careful attention is required. While it is a popular misconception that plugs are pre-gapped from the factory, the fact remains that the gap must be adjusted for the vehicle that the spark plug is intended for. Those with modified engines must remember that a modified engine with higher compression or forced induction will typically require a smaller gap settings (to ensure ignitability
in these denser air/fuel mixtures). As a rule, the more power you are making, the smaller the gap you will need.

A spark plug's voltage requirement is directly proportionate to the gap size. The larger the gap, the more voltage is needed to bridge the gap. Most experienced tuners know that opening gaps up to present a larger spark to the air/fuel mixture maximizes burn efficiency. It is for this reason that most racers add high power ignition systems. The added power allows them to open the gap yet still provide a strong spark.

With this mind, many think the larger the gap the better. In fact, some aftermarket ignition systems boast that their systems can tolerate gaps that are extreme. Be wary of such claims. In most cases, the largest gap you can run may still be smaller than you think.




http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...x.asp?mode=nml
This makes sense- one or more could have been dropped, or during shipment, who knows-?
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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when do you know when to change your spark plugs???? do you have to wait to a certain amount of miles....or do you jus change it when ever you want... i changed mine and they came out the same as AMgala did and im only at 50k miles.....
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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so did mines , were they still good or was it a good idea that i changed them ,to tell u the truth i didnt see no change in performance or gas milage , used ngk iridiums ix's
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGala
I wonder why? I bought the car used, so I don't know what was done to it before I got it.
just curious what would happen if you do change it while its hot or warm?
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajca
only take the spark plugs out with the engine cold.
edit that quote i just did. Rajca why can't you change the spark plug when its still hot or warm? i didn't kno that so i change it when it was warm right after i did my oil change. wats gonna happen?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Man ! Those look pretty bad. I have 105k on my TL-S and I am just about to replace the spark plug. Not sure how they will look compare to this one. I should find out soon.

Timing belt and water pump are done.


Originally Posted by AMGala
Alright well I just switched out my plugs. Idle is much better and response is seemingly a little bit better also. My car has a little bit less than 55,000 miles. Here are some pics of my old plugs:





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