jdjohn84

I read that an 09 intake manifold will fit on 2nd Gen TL-S. Is that correct? P2R makes an adapter that allows a J32A2 throttle body to fit to an 09 TL SH-AWD intake manifold that normally goes on a 3.7L engine. So I assume that means that the IM will just bolt-on to a J32A2 engine (i.e., 02-03 Type-S). Is that right? Here's a link to the adapter at powerrevracing.
http://powerrevracing.com/store/inde...hk=1&Itemid=53
If you look at the pic, I'm guessing they are selling the TB spacer and the silverish-gray wrap around piece, and the actual intake is the dullish-gray piece in the middle which they are not selling. I have found an 09 IM for a 3.7L, and it says upper, but there is also a lower IM that I'm guessing would not be necessary???

Lots to digest, so any help would be appreciated.

DC3328

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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ntake+manifold

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ntake+manifold

you need the intake manifold and the top plate, part numbers should be in the threads above

jdjohn84

Thanks, DC. I finally stumbled across those threads in the CL section by doing a Google search on the web...go figure. And those threads are looooong.

There seems to remain a question about the actual gains from the mod. Readers were wanting dyno charts, and the DIYers didn't have them; actually one guy did, but had compression problems, so not indicative of real results; another guy said he was doing 4.7 sec 0-60, but that was challenged by the readers, and everybody got pissed-off. Also, as I recall, both of them had base models, not type-S. Although it's a pretty easy bolt-on, there are some vacuum hose issues to deal with, an EGR issue which throws a code, and a wiring issue. They found workarounds for all of these, but not exactly p&p. Biggest cost is the 09 IM and plate (total about $350), and since the 09 cars are so new, obtaining the IM takes time due to short supply. These guys were also getting different TB (extra $250 or so), but I don't think a type-s would need to do that.

Probably won't be my first mod of choice, but maybe someday. I'll start with CAI, headers, thermal gaskets/spacers, UR crank pulley, and go from there. And none of this will happen quickly. Patience, grasshopper.

DC3328

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first of all i'd like to congratulate you on being the best noob ive ever seen, they never read through long ass threads. congrats

you did miss a couple things though, they both were type S's, e30cabrio is an auto, civicdrivr is 6 speed. this hasnt been done on a base on this forum yet.

and they got their type s throttle bodies bored to 71mm, the intake bore is 80mm

jdjohn84

Thanks...not my first rodeo I felt kind of silly posting my question when it had basically already been addressed, albeit in another section. I remember you were one of the 'challengers' of the 4.7 0-60. I don't want to choose sides, but a time that fast is quite a statement, and measured with an iPhone app??? I'm not sure how that would even work. An OBDII connection? Bluetooth?

If I remember correctly from the thread, they (at least maybe e30cabrio) got new/reman bored TBs for about $250, and received a core charge for their old ones. That's a lot of extra money for the mod, and I'm not sure that part was worth it.

Did you, or are you, going to do it?

gfrg88

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I plan on doing it.. I will also make sure to get before and after dyno runs too

DC3328

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i will eventually along with a whole port and polish but i need to scrounge up the money for that

and gfrg88 is gettin dyno numbers on a good engine

gfrg88

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I'm getting numbers for the mdx spacer this weekend.. And then I'm gonna try to get numbers for the 09 IM next month

And then after that, I should surprise everyone with what I'm doing next