darkfox12

So i have a TL-S and i only managed 15.5 on the quarter with a trap of 90 and a 0-60 of 6.5 I have headers, intake exhaust and a vafc, doesnt that seem really slow? Could something be robbing me of power.

initialD

It seem little slow.mine TL-S with headers axle-back and Denso plugs it does 6.3 to 60mph,and 15.7 to 100mph.oh yeah i use 94 octan gas,but it should not make big diff.

simplytltypes

What are the stock tl type s specs anway?

BLaCk Acc

yea thats definitly slow for a type s with those mods, you either messed up or ur car is messed up. because i got a tl-p with , aem cai, and megan headers, and i spun out through most of 1st gears(crappy ass tires), and ran 15.5 . lol i shouldn't have gone, i got headers and was excited so i wanted to see wat i would run, been meaning to goto the track for the past week but it keeps raining, u'll see a thread with my results, but thats bad times for a tl-s, you should be in high 14s or very low 15s.

MegaKillTron

damn SS or just auto? i used SS and ran a 15.86 in my 2000 TL stock

crazym0nkey

That's pretty bad. With I/H/E you should be doing 14.5 easily at least. Even with elevation, humidity, and temperature... you shouldn't be running 15.5 with all those mods. I ran 15.1 STOCK (and thats even considered slow). I believe 14.9 (or 14.7 dont remember correctly, someone correct me) is the rated quarter mile time (under perfect conditions). If you want to see time slips... well here you go


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fla-tls

Yeah - those times are really slow. I have OBX headers, an Ice Box, and UR pulleys and I got 14.4 @ 97 mph the last time I went to the track. My car dynos at 230 hp.

WiLLs TypE S

Very Slow...you should be mid to high 14's...with perfect conditions. You should sly that 1 second off.

darkfox12

geez, yea thats what i thought thats why i was so surprised as to why it was so damn slow. Any ideas what the heck is up? The track conditions werent that bad, each time i had like a .400 RT and the temp was around 75 with like 30% humidity and i didnt spin out too much.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Reaction times doesn't factor into the ET. You could sit at the light for 10 seconds, and it wouldn't make a difference in the ET.

What was your 60' time?

Your trap speed is way too low for a Type-S with I/H/E. I trapped at 99 last season on stock tires. There's something wrong in the equation.

Mike Skillz

Thats funny.....I just got back from the Import Wars at New England Dragway like 5 minutes ago.....i have a TL-P with CAI, stock tires, and i ran a 15.4@90.1....thats the best i could get, i ran like 8 times, track was wet most of the day, and then my tranny started to do the funky chicken in SS, so i called it quits, my RT on that run was 6.11, but after my car wouldnt shift into 3rd i said no more, and now i have to think about my next tranny soon, btw it'll be my second tranny!! but dudes times on the TL-s sound funny to me...........

darkfox12

my 0-60 was like 6.5. Ill scan the track slips a little later, but could something be wrong w/ my engine that could be robbing it of a whole second of time.

BLaCk Acc

you sure your vtec is kicking in? Some people on the board had problems with some acuator for the vtec and was stopping the vtec from kicking in, could be that..

initialD

Isn't the check engine light comes on if the vtec doesn't kicks it??

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

What, your track measures 0-60 mph time?

I'm talking about 60' time -- the ' means foot -> 60 foot time.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

No, he's talking about the secondary intake butterfly mechanism. It resides inside the intake manifold, and is activated by an actuator. If this unit fails, then the airflow is not optimized for VTEC operation. VTEC will still kick in and work perfectly fine; but the air won't be there to be optimized. This is not part of the OBDII, so it will not throw a code if it failed.

darkfox12

would that cause such a power loss?

simplytltypes

What are the stock tl type s specs anway?

fla-tls

No - not a power loss big enough to cut your 1/4 mile by a full second. Have you had your V-AFC tuned, or do you just use it to monitor things?

About 14.8 to 14.9 in the 1/4 when stock.

initialD

Wow thanks,i want to check mine,but how??

fla-tls

Take your plastic engine cover off and rev the engine with the throttle by hand.

As you rev it up, you will see the butterfly actuator (the spring-looking thing) on the left side of the intake twist open.

darkfox12

nah i havnt had my vafc tuned yet, i will this summer, but everyone else is runnin 14.5 and im running 15.5 and they dont have vafc's. Im just trying to figure out how my car is a whole second slower.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Again, what was your 60' time?

darkfox12

6.5

darkfox12

Do you mean my 60 foot time? this is what my slip says, my scanner aint workin well so. Reaction .388, I1 2.38, I2 6.62 , I3 10.027 (MPH I3 71) I4 12.9 , 1/4- 15.15 at 90.3 mph.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

So you ran 15.15@ 90.3, not 15.5 like you said in the original post.

You need to work on your launch, because 2.38 (I'm guessing that's the 60' time, assuming the track you went to denotes it by "I1".) isn't that great. I'm going to assume that you are on stock tires, since your signature didn't say anything about tires.

Did you hop/spin a lot off the line? You will have to work on that, because even on stock tires, I was cutting high 2.2xx 60' time last season. A deduction of 1/10 in the 60' time will translate to a deduction of more than 1/10 in the 1/4-mile. So if you practiced your launch, and gate-shift, then you will get into the 14's.

However, even high 14's is not that great of a number for a Type-S w/ I/H/E/P. Next time you go to the track, disconnect the battery a day or so ahead, and run the shit out of it. This will clear the long term data log, and you will be able to start a new one; and by running the hell out of it, the PCM will adapt to it and adjust accordingly. That could make a difference at the track.

WiLLs TypE S

just outta curiousity...could the tranny have a factor as well? Like not grabbing the gears good enough.

fsttyms1

agreed.

also i highly doubt that there is any thing wrong with the car. most is probably the driver and launch, that will make or break a run learn to gate shift and shift at jsut the right spots.
last time i was out with my tl-p with just a exhaust i was running 15.4 with a best of 15.18

darkfox12

no no sorry, thats a typo, its 15.51, and its not stock tires, im running avs100's, also i didnt spin off the track that much, i did about 10 runs so i could practice and get it down.

darkfox12

I gate shifted, used ss, just let it stay in D, they were all pretty similar in times.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Whoa, you have AVS ES100's and could only manage 2.38x?

No offense at all, but you need to work on your launch and shifting. That's what's killing ya.

Mike Skillz

How long do you have to disconnect the battery for to clear the logs?

fsttyms1

15 min

Mike Skillz

thank you

maxx96

My first time on the track was so, so. My best time was 15.12 if I remember correctly but my second time I knew that my problem was the take off and that I needed to relax, I tell you, at the time I could do better on the streets than on the track but after working on the take off I did managed 14.99 stock. Like the others said, just practice more and you should be able to get at least 15 flat. By the way don't believe so much what you read on the books about times etc., those drivers practice every day and you have to take in consideration the track conditions (weather). And yeah, you have very good tires so you will do better next time, good luck.