my friend has a 99 accord v6 sedan with aem cold air intake/aem pulleys/and some sort of exhaust. He really wants to race me bad. I think his goal is to make his car faster than mine. Anyways, i only have teh short ram in and i took out the resonator, but other than that i got nothing. Do you think i can take him?

 

Yeah....take him down......
Use SS....that might help...

 

Let em have a good look of your cars A$$

 

You won't have any problems w/the accord.

 

modded Accord V6's can be pretty fast, but it would take him more than a CAI and Pulleys to beat you. More like I/H/E, Pulleys, Plugs, and ECU upgrade...heh heh.

You guys may have more horsepower, but you also have a good bit more weight too. The thing that really makes a difference is the 5-spd SportShift with closer ratios.

Stock vs. Stock an Accord V6 will beat the 99 TL w/o SportShift, but the 00 TL w/SportShift is much faster - we have a real hard time beating those - even modded.

Good luck on the race!!!

 

has anybody tried using the e-brake to launch instead of the regular brakes? At what rpms is everybody revving to? thanks for your help.

 

I don't think your e-brake will hold you enough to properly brake-torque on a launch. Even if it did, your left foot would be able to lift off the brakes much quicker than your right hand releasing a parking brake.

 

FYI ours is a foot brake hehe...... i

 

when all my TL had was a bodykit, springs and wheels i got into it with an Accord V6 coupe. This was a situation that i also wondered about and he threw down the gauntlet.

He had dual can mufflers so he was already modified while i was pretty much bone stock performance wise.

it occurred on the freeway. the accord V6 is only available with the automatic tranny and it shows. he passed by from left to right really close to my a$$ while he floored it. i knew it was on. i floored it without sport shift caught up to him and then blew by him. all he could do was flash me the high beams afterwards because that was the only thing i could see of him at that point.

at least i can tell my wife, "don't waste my time..." when shes in her accord coupe v6. :p

 

Yes, I TOTALLY agree with you, Yes, a V6 Accord can be fast compare to 99TL..... I have both 99TL, and 01 CLP.... Compare both 01 and 99, seems like the 01 is alot faster especially the VTEC kicks in.... on 99, you cant really tell theres a VTEC kicking in or something..... But Accord with all bolts on can be fast.... I ran against my friends Accord with my 01CL while it was stock..... He has I/H/E, Denso plugs, and VAFC... yes, pretty much all the bolts on available out there for the car.... Well, we made 4 runs.... everytime, he had a better launch in 1st... but once he shift into 2nd, I am still in 1st (SS), I got closer.... and everytime, once I am in 2nd gear, I started to pulling from behind and passed him while he switch to 3rd..... and 3rd, its a big lead for 01....

Of course I race both my 99 and 01 b4, and the 01 already beat it by about a car length... so there you go, if you run against a fully mod Accord, you better in SS mode, and prepare to catch up instead of leading all the way..... now my CL have some mods, and the Accord just cant pull enuff power to win..... I guess that 0.2 liter really does make some different.....

But hehe, body wise, Accord look more sportier and nicer.... !

 

too close to call...

Stock for stock 0 to 60:

'99V6 Accord = 7.9 sec, 200hp@5500rpm
'01TL = 7.4 sec, 225hp@5600rpm

Do the following:
1. Turn off TCS
2. Shift gear to D3 auto (yes D-three)
3. Floored it you can do 0-60 in 6.8 sec (stock)

GO FOR IT!!!!! let us know.....

 

I have a 99 TL and i've beaten my friends V6 coupe plenty of times when my car was stock and he had CAI.

 

Ok, Why D3 instead of SS? if in D3, your 2nd to 3rd will be auto instead of 6750rpm! Pls explain!

 

Well, I use the SS mode for drag racing. But I wonder if it's the same with 1-2-D3. I heard that the respose is better with SS mode. But with 1-2-D3, I get to push every gear pass the redline.

 

I agree. I have a 99 TL and I have beaten many Accord (coupes and sedans) without SS. And my engine was stock before too. Now my only engine mod is an AEM CAI and it makes a world of difference. I haven't raced an Accord since I had my AEM CAI but the time will come and I will let you guys know what the outcome is. Stay tuned......

 

There is absolutely no difference in performance between Sport Shift and allowing the trans to shift automatically (D5).

There are 2 factors in regard to transmission shifts that would allow an increase in performance. The first is shift quality. In Sport Shift or D5 the same valve body is changing gears in the trans. There is no difference in fluid pressure, and there is no difference in shift firmness.

The 2nd factor is optimum shift point. In Sport Shift or D5 you have no control over the 1-2 shift. In all other gears, the TCM shifts the trans just a tick before the engine's redline. Assuming that you're incredibly quick (and able to account for the shift delay) you might hold the gear for an additional 100 rpm, but you won't see any real gain in performance.

I've track tested this many times. I've tested SS vs. D5, and VSA on vs. off. My ET's have varied no more than 0.03 seconds, and no method proved to be faster than the other. I prefer VSA on to avoid the wheel hop (which could potentially damage the drivetrain), and D5 (same performance with more consistency).

 

Dude, you optimize at 5600 rpm, no need to go to redline. AT D3 it shifts for you. Trust me it'll keep you in 2nd if you floored it and it is not ready to upshift (esp on uphill). Focus on winning the race not on when to shift.

Been there done that, Lots of older post on '0-60' and 'kills' in archive.

 

I agree. The 2000 TL makes 225 hp @ 5600 rpm and 217 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm so it makes no sense in shifting at any point above 5600 rpm. If you look at the hp and torque curves you actually lose hp above 5600 rpm

 

Well, it's not that simpe I guess. If you keep it at lower gear above 5600 you can lose something but you will also gain something by starting your next gear at higher RPM. Let's say you shift 2->3 at 5600 then you didn't lose anything on 2d but right after upshift to the 3d your RPMs will be ~4000 (this number is rather my guess) which can be below VTEC engage point (4400). If you shift 2->3 at 6200 then you lose at 2d but at 3d you start right from ~4600. Not sure where exactly the optimal point is but it's definitely above 5600.

If you have comptech headers then it's not a question at all. HPs are growing all the way up to ~6500.

 

I think he is right.... Shifting at higher rpm is NOT about gaining more power at 6500rpm or anything, its about after you shift, you want to fall back into as max power range as possible..... Yes, when you look at the graph, you will not gain power after 5600rpm, but if you shift at 56K, i really dun see how much faster would that be, cuz once you shift, you will be more likely to fall back into 3800-4000 range... If you shift it at 6750rpm, you will be falling back into 4750range, which is the VTEC power range.....

I dunno about D3, never tried it, maybe it really faster, so I cant argue. But I will try to see the different compare to SS mode...... But I can 100% SURE that if you shift it at 5600rpm range, you will be seeing many car's taillights!