transmission slip......help~!
02-15-2002 | 01:34 AM
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transmission slip......help~!
Hello all,
Today i experienced something weird. I was going at 60Km/h and the car in front was driving way too slow so i switched lane and floored it..... the rev metor went to the high rpm range (maybe about 5000rpm or so, not sure) but i couldn't feel any pull at all. The car sounded like it's revving hard but the car didn't really accelerate.... Does this mean my transmission is slipping?? My car only has 9000KM on it... so i doubt the transmission is slipping but i can't find other explaination... any idea?? thanks.
By the way this is the first time that happened...
Today i experienced something weird. I was going at 60Km/h and the car in front was driving way too slow so i switched lane and floored it..... the rev metor went to the high rpm range (maybe about 5000rpm or so, not sure) but i couldn't feel any pull at all. The car sounded like it's revving hard but the car didn't really accelerate.... Does this mean my transmission is slipping?? My car only has 9000KM on it... so i doubt the transmission is slipping but i can't find other explaination... any idea?? thanks.
By the way this is the first time that happened...
02-15-2002 | 09:25 AM
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I just experienced the same thing the other day. I don't know what to do either. I called the dealer so they are going to check it out next week. They said they would test drive it. You know when the service tech drives the car it's not going to happen to him.
Anyone else have this happen to them?
Anyone else have this happen to them?
02-15-2002 | 03:03 PM
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Okay....
I thought I had the same problem...when my car didn't kick when I floor it. So I ask the service advisor at Acura....he told me that when the car is still in motion (moving) and you try to floor it...there is some device or how the car is made that it will delay it for a couple of seconds before it actually kicks in and takes off. The service guy said that this is normal....unless when you're at a complete stop and then try to floor it and it doesn't go...that means that your transmission is out!
Hope that helps!
I thought I had the same problem...when my car didn't kick when I floor it. So I ask the service advisor at Acura....he told me that when the car is still in motion (moving) and you try to floor it...there is some device or how the car is made that it will delay it for a couple of seconds before it actually kicks in and takes off. The service guy said that this is normal....unless when you're at a complete stop and then try to floor it and it doesn't go...that means that your transmission is out!
Hope that helps!
02-15-2002 | 08:13 PM
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Hi Acura Boi,
I understand what you are saying, but the delay shouldn't less for 2-3 secs, plus I floor my car often, and that time took way too long for me to feel the pull.
Let say if my transmission is slipping for the first time does it mean it will happen everytime from now on? cuz after that happened I tried to floor it few more times and that didn't happen again... for those who have experienced slipping please tell me how it is like to determine if I need a new tranny. Thanks.
I only have 9k KM on my TL.. seems too early for slipping... yeah?
I understand what you are saying, but the delay shouldn't less for 2-3 secs, plus I floor my car often, and that time took way too long for me to feel the pull.
Let say if my transmission is slipping for the first time does it mean it will happen everytime from now on? cuz after that happened I tried to floor it few more times and that didn't happen again... for those who have experienced slipping please tell me how it is like to determine if I need a new tranny. Thanks.
I only have 9k KM on my TL.. seems too early for slipping... yeah?
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02-15-2002 | 11:54 PM
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Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. The TL offered performance and features for a price that Inifniti and Lexus couldn't match. What was the catch?? Hidden cost cutting, things like fake leather, fake wood, all buttons are from the Accord, cheap tires, and other things. But hey a '99 Tl sure was better than a '99 I30. But Acura thought the car was too slow. So they put in a 5spd auto. Too put in a new, never before used, 5spd auto was a costly thing to do. So what Honda did was they build the 5spd auto inside the 4spd auto's housing. How did they make it fit?? They thinned out the gears and used thinner cheaper inside parts. Nissan did the same thing on the old Silvias in Japan (5spd-6spd manual). Now Honda knows that the 5spd auto can't handle the power because of its cheaper gears.
And there is a little more proof to the story. The '99 Tl and Prelude, both had 4spd autos. When the driver is in Sport Shift mode. You can redline all the gears and the car will stay in the selected gear. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. The TL offered performance and features for a price that Inifniti and Lexus couldn't match. What was the catch?? Hidden cost cutting, things like fake leather, fake wood, all buttons are from the Accord, cheap tires, and other things. But hey a '99 Tl sure was better than a '99 I30. But Acura thought the car was too slow. So they put in a 5spd auto. Too put in a new, never before used, 5spd auto was a costly thing to do. So what Honda did was they build the 5spd auto inside the 4spd auto's housing. How did they make it fit?? They thinned out the gears and used thinner cheaper inside parts. Nissan did the same thing on the old Silvias in Japan (5spd-6spd manual). Now Honda knows that the 5spd auto can't handle the power because of its cheaper gears.
And there is a little more proof to the story. The '99 Tl and Prelude, both had 4spd autos. When the driver is in Sport Shift mode. You can redline all the gears and the car will stay in the selected gear. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
02-16-2002 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by LuxSport
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
02-16-2002 | 12:05 AM
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Wait a Minute....Cheap Tires????? Where? If anything expensive tires for the quality....
Anyway..That's how mine started...Have many miles on mine 82k to be exact......
Get mine back next week
Can't wait...
Anyway..That's how mine started...Have many miles on mine 82k to be exact......
Get mine back next week
Can't wait...
02-16-2002 | 10:39 AM
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Same thing here, but it also happens in the low range. I've been fighting Acura about this for since 15K, got 30K now. Dealers keep saying nothing is wrong with it. Time to call dateline or something....
02-16-2002 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by LuxSport
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. The TL offered performance and features for a price that Inifniti and Lexus couldn't match. What was the catch?? Hidden cost cutting, things like fake leather, fake wood, all buttons are from the Accord, cheap tires, and other things. But hey a '99 Tl sure was better than a '99 I30. But Acura thought the car was too slow. So they put in a 5spd auto. Too put in a new, never before used, 5spd auto was a costly thing to do. So what Honda did was they build the 5spd auto inside the 4spd auto's housing. How did they make it fit?? They thinned out the gears and used thinner cheaper inside parts. Nissan did the same thing on the old Silvias in Japan (5spd-6spd manual). Now Honda knows that the 5spd auto can't handle the power because of its cheaper gears.
And there is a little more proof to the story. The '99 Tl and Prelude, both had 4spd autos. When the driver is in Sport Shift mode. You can redline all the gears and the car will stay in the selected gear. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact)
The TL was redesigned in '99. The TL offered performance and features for a price that Inifniti and Lexus couldn't match. What was the catch?? Hidden cost cutting, things like fake leather, fake wood, all buttons are from the Accord, cheap tires, and other things. But hey a '99 Tl sure was better than a '99 I30. But Acura thought the car was too slow. So they put in a 5spd auto. Too put in a new, never before used, 5spd auto was a costly thing to do. So what Honda did was they build the 5spd auto inside the 4spd auto's housing. How did they make it fit?? They thinned out the gears and used thinner cheaper inside parts. Nissan did the same thing on the old Silvias in Japan (5spd-6spd manual). Now Honda knows that the 5spd auto can't handle the power because of its cheaper gears.
And there is a little more proof to the story. The '99 Tl and Prelude, both had 4spd autos. When the driver is in Sport Shift mode. You can redline all the gears and the car will stay in the selected gear. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
02-16-2002 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by LuxSport
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
Honda built faulty transmissions. Don't worry while you still have your warranty you are good to go, but when it runs out, trade your car in quickly!!!
This is what I think Honda did (My personal opinion not fact) The TL was redesigned in '99. The TL offered performance and features for a price that Inifniti and Lexus couldn't match. What was the catch?? Hidden cost cutting, things like fake leather, fake wood, all buttons are from the Accord, cheap tires, and other things.
But hey a '99 Tl sure was better than a '99 I30. But Acura thought the car was too slow. So they put in a 5spd auto. Too put in a new, never before used, 5spd auto was a costly thing to do. So what Honda did was they build the 5spd auto inside the 4spd auto's housing. How did they make it fit?? They thinned out the gears and used thinner cheaper inside parts. Nissan did the same thing on the old Silvias in Japan (5spd-6spd manual). Now Honda knows that the 5spd auto can't handle the power because of its cheaper gears.
And there is a little more proof to the story. The '99 Tl and Prelude, both had 4spd autos. When the driver is in Sport Shift mode. You can redline all the gears and the car will stay in the selected gear. In the 5spd auto, when the driver is in Sport Shift mode (overriding the auto), the auto's computer will override the driver and shift gears, if the RPMs get too high in first and second gear. This computer override feature was created so the first and second gears won't be badly hurt during full trottle accellerations, hinting to the fact that the gears weren't built as strong as the 4spd auto's.
No doubt we have tranny failures reported in this forum, but don't forget that the vast majority of TLs don't have this problem. Again, the pattern may yet point to batches of trannies, perhaps containing contaminated lubricants or defective solenoids.
02-16-2002 | 05:52 PM
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The following www.acura-cl.com members have had tranny replacements:
2ndtrannycls, AcuraCLSGuy, adamfwm, aefitchgirl, amirsafdari,
ATLCL-S, autoxCLS, bdavid13, BKLYNCL, blkmjk,
BLK CLS (2) , both, Buffa, C.Z., Chris (2),
CLpower, CL Sabre, CLSmike, CL-SPS, dancl01,
davematthews, delmonk, DRIVE HARDER TYPE-S, droideka, fastvtecCL,
Fl-typeS, frederix, gsxtasyd, Hanzie, Henry,
kmanpete, jjc001 (2), JSuppi, Juker008, just because,
Ken806, mantis23, Mercury, moomaster_99, nanoDave,
Nitin, NOLACLS, nsg1000, osclude, QuickSilver,
Rod, ruvz(2), Samer007, superdds, SidVicious,
SiGGy, SilverBulletCLS, SilverKnight, SILVERSRG, silverstarr,
skyeflye, SleeperCL, Smeg, SpetsiotakisDogs(2), squishy,
StypeCL, talon koo, technique, tel1sps, tintboy,
typeSDragoon, vam, URIRx98, xxy1xx, yanotkajZ
Some people are on there 3rd and fourth transmission with less than 50K miles!!!!!!
2ndtrannycls, AcuraCLSGuy, adamfwm, aefitchgirl, amirsafdari,
ATLCL-S, autoxCLS, bdavid13, BKLYNCL, blkmjk,
BLK CLS (2) , both, Buffa, C.Z., Chris (2),
CLpower, CL Sabre, CLSmike, CL-SPS, dancl01,
davematthews, delmonk, DRIVE HARDER TYPE-S, droideka, fastvtecCL,
Fl-typeS, frederix, gsxtasyd, Hanzie, Henry,
kmanpete, jjc001 (2), JSuppi, Juker008, just because,
Ken806, mantis23, Mercury, moomaster_99, nanoDave,
Nitin, NOLACLS, nsg1000, osclude, QuickSilver,
Rod, ruvz(2), Samer007, superdds, SidVicious,
SiGGy, SilverBulletCLS, SilverKnight, SILVERSRG, silverstarr,
skyeflye, SleeperCL, Smeg, SpetsiotakisDogs(2), squishy,
StypeCL, talon koo, technique, tel1sps, tintboy,
typeSDragoon, vam, URIRx98, xxy1xx, yanotkajZ
Some people are on there 3rd and fourth transmission with less than 50K miles!!!!!!
02-25-2002 | 07:03 PM
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WTF How many people from this forum have had their trannys replaced at least once. I am feeling that delay even when I am at idle speed and gradually pree the accelerator. I am annoyed that I feel my tranny will go soon because as of 5 days ago it drives very different from how it used to. Its like I feel the gear engaes but not fully at first then a couple sec later it engages a second time correctly. I dont know what to make of it .
When I used to give it gas it would start moving faster and then Vtec would kick in . Now nothing seems to happen and then it works ok after a sec or 2. Weird?
When I used to give it gas it would start moving faster and then Vtec would kick in . Now nothing seems to happen and then it works ok after a sec or 2. Weird?
02-26-2002 | 01:50 AM
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go to this thread:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=34420
this thread might be of some help in the long run in enough people voice their opinion about faulty ACURA transmission.
we should all take this survey !!
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=34420
this thread might be of some help in the long run in enough people voice their opinion about faulty ACURA transmission.
we should all take this survey !!
02-26-2002 | 11:19 AM
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I got 37,000 miles on my TL and no problems. Do you guys use afetmarket TF? I use Honda's and I allready flushed it once at 30,000 miles. I will flush it at 45,000 and just before 50,000. I'm really sorry to hear soo many Tl's with faulting trannies..... 
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