jungsup81

I currently have one 12" sub and two amps, one of which is hooked up to the factory speakers... a very mild setup...
if you had about $3500, would you save up for a supercharger or get a nice sound setup (new subs, new amps, new headunit, flip screen, etc)? You guys think the supercharger is worth the money for our cars (02 TL-S)? considering the car isn't a sports car to begin with (instead its a heavy front wheel drive and an automatic on top of that) and the supercharger only gives about 60hp? is that rite? or what about the 3.5L upgrade? Let me know what you guys think... Thanks.

jungsup81

to my knowledge, the s/c is $3900-$4000 plus labor and the 3.5L upgrade is $2500 for parts, plus labor. hmmm... for a nice system... i guess anywhere from $2500-$3500 (just a guess... i have no clue what a custom head unit installation will cost).

badazzTL

what does the "S" in Type S stand for? sport maybe

i think you answered your own question, you seem to not want the SC and it is a waste IMO. i dont think anyone does the 3.5 upgrade n e more/

LiQiCE

Dean over at ACL.com is considering selling a kit for the 3.5L upgrade, along with offering an install for it in Florida.

Personally, I really like the 3.5L upgrade idea, but I'm wary about finding someone good to install it.

However, it should be easier to find someone to install the S/C and dealers may even let you keep your factory warranty!

Also remember that the S/C only gives 42-48 whp for automatics. The S/C only gives ~60hp on the CL-S 6-speed. Supposedly Comptech will be releasing an ECU upgrade for the automatic TL/CLs which will provide gains similar to the 6-speeds CL-S's.

Personally, I'm more concerned with power and speed than I am with audio systems ... but thats just me

jungsup81

I think the "S" stands for speed.
i'd love to have a supercharged TLS... its just that 4Gs into a car should provide more than it does... ?60? extra horses are sweet nonetheless. I'm not sure what I'd want... so I just wanted to hear what others felt.

jungsup81

that was a reply to badazzTL... LiQiCe replied almost at same time as me.. a second before mine went up... hehe.. thanx for your opinion LiQiCe.

LiQiCE

I just surfed to comptech's website and Mike B over there (who works for Comptech) said the gains of the S/C'ed automatic TL/CL is only about 35hp at the wheels ... Thats pretty crappy for a supercharger. 42-48 is more reasonable, but I guess they need to do some more tweaking with the ECU .. (I also read that any additional upgrades like an ECU upgrade would not be provided free of charge to existing S/C customers!)

jungsup81

35whp???? for 4000 bucks??? dats a bummer... does anyone know the 1/4 mile time for a supercharged TLS? wut about the 3.5?

typeR

13.79 @101.54

jungsup81

13.79 is with the 3.5 rite? which is wut u ran, rite typeR? anyone know for s/c?

car_lost

if i were you... i would definitely go with the 3.5 upgrade along with any and all bolt-ons available for the tl.

joecooool

is300eater

I don't want to pi$$ anyone off, but honestly... if I had about 4g to throw around right now... I'd sell my TL-S and use the 4g to buy a different car. Don't get me wrong... I still love my TL-S, but I guess I can officially be added to the "bad tranny list" found out last wednesday... (just under 40g miles)

r10apple

I'm worried about the s/c stuff and the gains with paying that much jack...
A couple of guys are supposedly getting them this week or next and should report back what the gains are like (Zodiak, 2fasttls?)...

Who knows...
Id Dean can put this 3.5L package and install together here in Florida, there are a lot of us down here that may be very interested...

TypeR--how many miles have you got on your upgrade? Any problems? Cook your tranny yet?

typeR

i did go through a tranny but....big but my tranny had acted up before i got the new engine...a couple times i got stuck in second....then oh a month or so back it gave out...this is my sdecond replacement (first with the 3.5) and i had the first replaced beofre they started changing the ECU with them...i do catch second form time to time ..so far im happy with this one...i have about 10-12K on the 3.5L

VTECTLtypeS

13.7 should be with the supercharger....sounds about right

but im getting my insurance check in a week and ill be ordering the s/c. ill let u know how my numbers come up after my dynotune