sportshift

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:03 PM
  #1  
Maximaboy1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Irvine,CA
sportshift

does the car automatically upshift when redlined in sportshift mode?
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:08 PM
  #2  
khoifl's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 310
Likes: 1
From: Tampa Bay, FL
Nope, I don't think so. Besides, 00 & up will automaticly shift from 1-> 2.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:28 PM
  #3  
TL_Fo_Life's Avatar
My "P" SpAnKs YouR "S"
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 665
Likes: 1
From: Pacoima, ca
1->2 yes. any other gear no.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:31 PM
  #4  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
only in first will it shift. any other gear it will stay there and bounce off the revlimiter
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:06 PM
  #5  
ou sig's Avatar
Boomer SOONER
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,729
Likes: 14
From: McKinney, TX
only the 99TL doesnt upshift automatically in any of the gears
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:46 PM
  #6  
FiftyFive's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 10,823
Likes: 52
From: SW Connecticut
and if you want to hold first ie. at the track, use gate shifting, putting it in 1 will keep it there
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:02 PM
  #7  
99bluetlwtt's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Mine does not automatically shift
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:09 AM
  #8  
TLTS's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Emerald City
03 will shift for you if you come close to red line and if you downshift with to many rpms it will choose the right gear for you , kinda like an auto red liner . kinda sucks. 03 type s
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:09 AM
  #9  
Maximaboy1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Irvine,CA
just checking...i have a few skeptical cousins and friends that think M3's are the cars with the superior SMG transmission--the only ones that won't upshift when redlined...I was like..the TL doesn't either..they were like..ya right.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:54 AM
  #10  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by Maximaboy1
just checking...i have a few skeptical cousins and friends that think M3's are the cars with the superior SMG transmission--the only ones that won't upshift when redlined...I was like..the TL doesn't either..they were like..ya right.
the ferrari is the best smg in the world, not bmw

the only gear that the 00-03 TL will shift automaticly from is first. the 99 didnt and the TSX doesnt
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:43 AM
  #11  
VITEK's Avatar
Ganji, Want some?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: Da HELL A WHERE?
What is GATE SHIFTING?????
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:51 AM
  #12  
TL_S_Driver's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: NYC
manually shifting from D1 to D2 to D3 and so forth....
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:33 PM
  #13  
Maximaboy1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Irvine,CA
so the design of our sportshift is similar to the SMG concept of manually shifting gears--except ours shifts up/down between 1-2...good..I can feel confident driving the TL around saying it won't upshift...those skeptics. My cousin was bragging about being able to shift--I was like our TL does it too--he was well it must upshift when you redline--I was like no it doesn't--he just gave me a little look of disbelief.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:43 PM
  #14  
VITEK's Avatar
Ganji, Want some?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: Da HELL A WHERE?
Originally Posted by TL_S_Driver
manually shifting from D1 to D2 to D3 and so forth....

So if i put my gear all the way down to D1 will i start faster? like do i just keep switching up as it redlines? elaborate for me alittle more please..
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:20 PM
  #15  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by VITEK
So if i put my gear all the way down to D1 will i start faster? like do i just keep switching up as it redlines? elaborate for me alittle more please..
gate shifting is pretty much for drag racing. it will allow you to hold 1st gear that little bit longer (SS and auto tend to shift a lil early) once to redline (before the rev limiter kicks in) just slide it to the next gear.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:41 PM
  #16  
Pure Adrenaline's Avatar
Dragging knees in
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,434
Likes: 33
From: Seattle Area
Originally Posted by TLTS
03 will shift for you if you come close to red line and if you downshift with to many rpms it will choose the right gear for you , kinda like an auto red liner . kinda sucks. 03 type s
From first to second, yeah, it will shift for you. But not just when it comes close to redline; it will shift at any RPM depending on throttle input and speed.

Any other gears, it won't upshift. You will just sit there banging off the rev limiter.





The 1st and 2nd generation SMG were based on an automatic type transmission, but the 3rd generation SMG (as found in the newer M cars) was conceived and engineered as an SMG unit from the beginning. First and second gears are placed in the strongest part of the transmission and other gears distributed accordingly, and so it has a really weird shift pattern. You would go insane shifting that manually. But the computer won't. It can precisely perform shifts in 65 milliseconds. On the new M6 and M5, I believe it has like 7 different shift maps.

Bottom line is, our SportShift is prehistoric compared to the SMG, DSG, etc. These units actually have clutches that are operated by the computer; with our system, you're just overriding the shift commands.

And like Kris said, BMW's SMG has nothing on the Ferrari F1 transmission. Engineered by Magnetti Marelli, it is basically the same (but differently tuned) unit as Formula-1 cars (yeah, the one that Michael Schumacher drives).
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:43 PM
  #17  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
From first to second, yeah, it will shift for you. But not just when it comes close to redline; it will shift at any RPM depending on throttle input and speed.

Any other gears, it won't upshift. You will just sit there banging off the rev limiter.





The 1st and 2nd generation SMG were based on an automatic type transmission, but the 3rd generation SMG (as found in the newer M cars) was conceived and engineered as an SMG unit from the beginning. First and second gears are placed in the strongest part of the transmission and other gears distributed accordingly, and so it has a really weird shift pattern. You would go insane shifting that manually. But the computer won't. It can precisely perform shifts in 65 milliseconds. On the new M6 and M5, I believe it has like 7 different shift maps.

Bottom line is, our SportShift is prehistoric compared to the SMG, DSG, etc. These units actually have clutches that are operated by the computer; with our system, you're just overriding the shift commands.

And like Kris said, BMW's SMG has nothing on the Ferrari F1 transmission. Engineered by Magnetti Marelli, it is basically the same (but differently tuned) unit as Formula-1 cars (yeah, the one that Michael Schumacher drives).
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:07 PM
  #18  
t0ast's Avatar
2Poor 2Furious
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
From: Berkeley, CA
Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
The 1st and 2nd generation SMG were based on an automatic type transmission, but the 3rd generation SMG (as found in the newer M cars) was conceived and engineered as an SMG unit from the beginning. First and second gears are placed in the strongest part of the transmission and other gears distributed accordingly, and so it has a really weird shift pattern. You would go insane shifting that manually. But the computer won't. It can precisely perform shifts in 65 milliseconds. On the new M6 and M5, I believe it has like 7 different shift maps.

Bottom line is, our SportShift is prehistoric compared to the SMG, DSG, etc. These units actually have clutches that are operated by the computer; with our system, you're just overriding the shift commands.

And like Kris said, BMW's SMG has nothing on the Ferrari F1 transmission. Engineered by Magnetti Marelli, it is basically the same (but differently tuned) unit as Formula-1 cars (yeah, the one that Michael Schumacher drives).
But you don't have to let your cousin know that. Just let him think that our TL's sportshift is just like his SMG. No offense, but he sounds like he needs to take his BMW attitude and.....
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:13 PM
  #19  
Pure Adrenaline's Avatar
Dragging knees in
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,434
Likes: 33
From: Seattle Area
Originally Posted by t0ast
But you don't have to let your cousin know that. Just let him think that our TL's sportshift is just like his SMG. No offense, but he sounds like he needs to take his BMW attitude and.....
Well, I'm not the one with the BMW cousin, but I hear ya... I would hate to generalize, but a lot of BMW drivers do have that attitude...
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:54 PM
  #20  
***EL*MAFIOSO***'s Avatar
blACk AC in sAC
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,340
Likes: 0
From: at work
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:16 PM
  #21  
disgookonfiya's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 796
Likes: 6
From: New Orleans, LA
i hear the new BMW's SMG tranny can shift faster than a person could shift manually, so if you bought a M3 SMG u can outrun a manual M3
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:35 PM
  #22  
TLTS's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Emerald City
I swear , I put mine in (03tlts) sport shift and if you wot it will 1-2 yes and if yuo keep it wot it will do it again 2-3 and so on didnot try 3-4 because already well into the 100mph i let off in 3rd try it , this is in a o3 types , if you dont beleave try in 2003 type s only not 01' 02' but only a 03'
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:38 PM
  #23  
TLTS's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Emerald City
doit all the time only time revelimter kicks in is in nuetral. its even in my manuel o3' type s ,,
why would i lie ,
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:43 PM
  #24  
***EL*MAFIOSO***'s Avatar
blACk AC in sAC
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,340
Likes: 0
From: at work
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:45 PM
  #25  
TLTS's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Emerald City
sport shift only , thats what im talking about, not gate shift . sport shift will not let you screw up the engine it will shift for you if your to close to red line do it all the time guy's 1-2 , 2-3 , 3- 4 and so on....
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:50 PM
  #26  
TLTS's Avatar
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Emerald City
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jaydef03
Car Talk
43
Jun 18, 2005 08:42 AM
sidemarker
2G CL (2001-2003)
34
Dec 26, 2001 01:30 PM
sneak
2G CL (2001-2003)
7
May 16, 2001 04:53 PM
gavriil
2G CL (2001-2003)
14
May 15, 2001 12:57 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:51 PM.