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Old 07-02-2008 | 10:00 PM
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Service Manual, where are ya buddy?

Old Threads on this topic had posting dates of 2002, 2004, and 2005 so i am starting a new one.

I need the full service shop manual for a 1999 acura 3.2 tl. Helminc.com has it, part # 61S0K04. There are others on the site, but the aforementioned part number is the one which covers 99-03 tl's including the tl-s, so it's the one i want.

The problem is that when i add it to the cart it says the following which makes me dissatisfied:

"This manual is a digital reprint of the original publication. It is possible that this item will be in loose-leaf format, if so, a binder will be included. Any wiring diagrams in the original shop/service manual are NOT reproduceable and are no longer available."

I don't care about their reasons for not including wiring diagrams because it is a reproduction (infingement reasons or otherwise), I just want the FULL original thing as well as the supplements to the manual (which they do include).

Can anyone help me?

I was in a low speed t-bone accident and want to do some other work while i'm at it. Much like everyone else here, i'm a tinkering s.o.b.
Old 07-03-2008 | 02:00 AM
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More questions to add. I know that there are several versions of the service and electrical manuals for our vehicle from helminc.com, each subsequent one adding additional info for the newer year vehicles. For example part # 61S0K01EL (Electrical Troubleshooting Manual) has the electrical system for 99-00 tl's, and then part # 61S0K04EL has the electrical system for 99-03 tl's.

That obviously holds true for the service manuals as well. But in addition to that, the service manuals have "supplemental" info that may contain corrections/changes and stuff.

My question is, do the electrical troubleshooting manuals also have supplemental info that make corrections/changes? I do not see such items on helminc.com or auto-repair-manual.com, so i am assuming that there are none.

I'm asking because I purchased the 99-00 ETM (part # 61S0K01EL) off of ebay without knowing about the newer manual (part # 61S0K04EL) and am debating whether to buy it (the newer one).
Old 07-03-2008 | 06:17 AM
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Old 07-03-2008 | 06:28 AM
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HELMINC.COM is where I got mine. $100.00 for the whole manual which includes 3 seperate volumes. Looks like the exact same thing Acura uses.
Old 07-03-2008 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DIRTYSOUTH_TYPE-S
HELMINC.COM is where I got mine. $100.00 for the whole manual which includes 3 seperate volumes. Looks like the exact same thing Acura uses.

1) About how long ago did you purchase your copy?

2) Does it include wiring diagrams and such that they state are excluded (when you add it to the shopping cart)?

I will definitely try calling them again. They were already closed when i called last night.
Old 07-03-2008 | 10:36 AM
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For whatever reason I've seen them on Ebay for 3rd gen. & 1st gen. but only once did I see one for 2nd gen. model. Should have bid higher on it when it was listed...
Old 07-03-2008 | 11:14 AM
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I ordered mine about 1.5 weeks ago, recieved it last Weds. Im pretty sure I saw a complete wiring diagram, it looked pretty extensive. Only flipped through it breifly, when I get home later I'll check just to make sure. It has exploded views of pretty much every assembeled (sp) part on the car so im sure all your wiring needs can be found aswell.
Old 12-29-2008 | 12:52 PM
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sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but...

cominfromafar: did you get the manual? If so, was it the reprint crap in the binder? or was it the original?

I want to get the original with all the wiring and electrical info... anyone know if it's included? I'll probably call them, but I just thought one of you guys might know already.

Thanks!
Old 12-29-2008 | 01:00 PM
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drummr8: I bought the manual from Helm back in September of this year. See my thread on the stuff I bought; you only need 61S0K04.

It came in three thick-ass books (volumes) & wasn't binder-based. Half of one volume is dedicated to the transmission. Problem is is that the volumes are continuous as in content resumes from the last page of volume A on the first page of volume B. I also wish there were more disassembly instructions; some stuff is just "mentioned" in the component location diagram but doesn't say how to remove it. Still a good buy though.
Old 12-29-2008 | 02:22 PM
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Yeah, I saw your thread when I did a forum search... I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to get shafted with the loose leaf stuff. I guess I'll call and make sure I'm getting the actual books.

Thanks for the info.
Old 12-29-2008 | 02:47 PM
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wow...are there no pdf's available?

I'm just used to my nissan 240sx. There are pdf's available everywhere online for the FSM.
Old 12-29-2008 | 02:49 PM
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That's because it is a lot more popular "tuner" car. Do some searching.. there are some out there. Someone made a thread not too long ago about it.
Old 12-29-2008 | 03:04 PM
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I really wanted to know if there is anyone who purchased it recently (like in the last month or somethin)... I just called and they said it will be looseleaf paper in a binder
(but then again it was some foreign lady and I'm not sure if she understood what I was asking... I also don't think she knew for sure what it was going to be--Gotta love outsourcing!)

I want the actual books!!!
Old 12-29-2008 | 11:06 PM
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This is what i got around sept./oct. time. It was $95 + $6.95 S&H.

It is a very very good manual. The best that there is i'd say. Very well detailed. I bought the Chilton manual thinking it was good enough, but i was wrong.

Note that this manual will not include things such how to completely take apart stuff like the body (it's damn close). You would have to get the body manual for that. This will however give you all the steps that you need to repair the car, such as dismantling/troubleshooting procedures. If part of that includes taking off a kick panel, fender, etc. or something, it will show you that. This manual removes a whole lot of "stupid" that could occur, but common sense is still needed in any case of course...








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Old 12-29-2008 | 11:29 PM
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Old 12-30-2008 | 02:28 PM
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I received the exact same books that cominfromafar posted.
Old 12-30-2008 | 03:01 PM
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Service Manuals

I too just ordered them within the last 3 weeks and got the same 3 volume set as pictured above.
Old 05-04-2009 | 09:00 AM
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how about the Haynes repair manuals, are they any good? I am waiting for my order to come in the mail mail so I will find out soon enough.
Old 05-04-2009 | 09:06 AM
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Old 05-04-2009 | 09:10 AM
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repair manual question

hi how you doing?
I was wondering if you ever found a repair manual you are comfortable with.
I just bought the Haynes repair manual for $21.00 for 99-2003 tl's. oh yea mine is a 3.2 2003 tl. please let me know of your luck with that search. when I visited helminc, I saw a manual there and like you I was disappointed to read that it would be missing some very usfull information.
hope you can help thanks!
Old 05-04-2009 | 09:12 AM
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how about my question smart guy!!!
Old 05-04-2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by feylito285@hotmail.com
how about my question smart guy!!!
each manual is different.. they are all helpful and may offer info that the others do not.. haynes is a good company. if you feel or think that its inferior to other brands.. i would consider switching manual's..

and my reference to your name was only trying to be helpful.. didnt want you to get spammed to high hell.. and changing it now wouldnt really affect you, since your a new user
Old 05-04-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Haynes cant hold a match to the Helms. Unless i was in a pinch and needed one i wouldnt waste my money on it.
Old 05-04-2009 | 02:26 PM
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Haynes manual....

IMHO....I would think the Haynes manual would be a good enough match for the technical expertise of about 75% of us on this board and is only $25 compared to $100 for the Helms.
Old 05-09-2009 | 11:26 AM
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I have the 99' TL shop manual, but I'm trying to "upgrade" shall we say since I own a 2001 and plan on working with some of the conversions that lots of us 2gers are interested in. I cannot find the $100.00 shop service manual. I found a $73.00 one, but it doesn't sound right.

Any assistance is appreciated.
Old 05-09-2009 | 03:37 PM
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on ebay I found a pdf format repair manual 99-03 for under $25.00
read the description and play the demo I think it is worth the $$$
plus another guy here said it resembles the helms manual.
I thought that guy selling on ebay has a shop repair manual scanned and saved it as pdf file with search capability.

here is the search criteria:


ACURA TL 99-03 Service Repair Manual ( 99 00 01 02 03 )
Old 05-09-2009 | 05:37 PM
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just get the helms one. Its the most detailed and you wont be disappointed in it. Yea its a lot of money but worth it.
Old 05-09-2009 | 08:06 PM
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fsttyms1 did you take a look at the ebay pdf manual I was talking about? it looked like the helms manual to another guy I was chating with. if you bought from helm can you take a look and see if it is.
if that is the same one people are buying from helms it is a heck of a deal for under $25.00 thanks!

Old 05-11-2009 | 02:13 PM
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*sigh* I've been looking for a deal on a shop manual as well for a while. Guess I'll just have to suck up and drop the money on the Helm one

*grumbles*
Old 05-11-2009 | 02:45 PM
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Check ebay often, found one for $55 new, shipped.
Old 05-15-2009 | 03:16 PM
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update

Just got mine today. It was $73.00 + $6.95 S&H and it's the same as shown above with the 3 volumes. Looks like the price dropped from before.
Old 01-09-2010 | 07:53 PM
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so after messing with my car today, im gonna go ahead and bump this thread..

i checked the helms website and they dont even have a full service manual listed to purchase.. im just curious to see if anyone has purchased one recently from them and what kind you received..

i also did see the auction that the other guy was talking about.. its 21.99 on ebay and after watching the demo, it looks exactly like a .pdf of the helms and im tempted to go ahead and get it.. it also seems to be lacking the full wiring diagram though..

anyways.. just throwing it out there to get some more recent updates.. and hell, if anyone on here has a FULL .pdf version they can send me, i can drop you some cash in your paypal account..
Old 01-09-2010 | 08:10 PM
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I downloaded the acura manual free from here.
Old 01-09-2010 | 08:33 PM
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^ +1

Can't seem to find that thread though...
Old 01-09-2010 | 08:34 PM
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This is the page. Pdf no bookmarks. 2000 + pgs. Same as the one on ebay I think. Make sure adobe reader is up to date or it might not open. http://home.comcast.net/~amberlani01/site/
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There it is..
Old 01-09-2010 | 10:23 PM
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acuras new program for info-https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.asp
its a buy it as needed service on the tech info, and has everything honda knows about any car they made since 1970
Old 01-09-2010 | 10:59 PM
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ALLDATA is the way to go. so glad im in college for automotive engineering because you learn a whole bunch of info you would have never had thought of.
Old 01-10-2010 | 03:13 AM
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nice.. i remember seeing it mentioned that others had DLed it from somewhere, but never caught the address.. DLing it now.. thanks..
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Well that sucks..........I just bought that off ebay a week ago!


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