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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Does anyone know the weight of the Type S seats? I was thinking about getting some leather racing seats or RSX seats to shed some weight but if the factory seats arent too far off, say about 80lbs, it wont be worth it.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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they'd have to be pretty heavy to make a diff.
every 100lbs you shave is only a tenth of a sec.
correct me if i'm wrong...
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I take out my rear seats, spare tire, jack, and trunk lining when I go to the track. (ran 14.8 @ 93mph)

I don't think permanently removing your seats would be a good idea. It would look stupid, and It's not a track car, so there is no point.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JRhodes88
I take out my rear seats, spare tire, jack, and trunk lining when I go to the track. (ran 14.8 @ 93mph)

I don't think permanently removing your seats would be a good idea. It would look stupid, and It's not a track car, so there is no point.
My TL-p ran those numbers. full interior
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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My TL-p ran those numbers. full interior
really my car ran like 17.4 lol i got a 99 tl-p. it might be cause im in colorado and the altitude in higher but i dont think it will be that much slower?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thinhthan
really my car ran like 17.4 lol i got a 99 tl-p. it might be cause im in colorado and the altitude in higher but i dont think it will be that much slower?
driver? Tl-Ps should be in the 15s
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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the 5 speeds maybe. not the 4 speeds.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
My TL-p ran those numbers. full interior
yea...ok. What mods?

im running in Florida with 80 degree weather
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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definately alot hotter down here


but I not too sure it'd have that big of an impact on your time
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ftLauTL
definately alot hotter down here


but I not too sure it'd have that big of an impact on your time
yea, but i'm just having a hard time believing a stock TL-p will run the same times on the 1/4 mile than a type s
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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^ it shouldnt run a 17 its definitely a mid 15 sec car.
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Originally Posted by nayaab88
^6spd?
With that im in the high 13s

Originally Posted by JRhodes88
yea...ok. What mods?

im running in Florida with 80 degree weather
A stock TL-S should be in the mid 14s.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
A stock TL-S should be in the mid 14s.
Says who? Has anyone posted times with a stock TL-S in the 14.5's?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JRhodes88
Says who? Has anyone posted times with a stock TL-S in the 14.5's?
Ive seen plenty TL-S in the mid upper 14s over the years (usually in the upper band of and mid 14s with standard mods like I/H/E)
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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kinna made it sound like a TL-P runs that stock too though.. i see where the confusion came from.. and thinhthan.. 17 is outrageous.. something is wrong with your car lol.. i was low-mid 15's with NO mods and full interior.. even the spare. (99 TL-P)

i've tracked this car once.. and probably never will again
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Ive seen plenty TL-S in the mid upper 14s over the years (usually in the upper band of and mid 14s with standard mods like I/H/E)
I got some work to do

What is a god shift point when in tiptronic would you say? 5,500rpm? I don't want to waste any torque
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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SS is for curvy roads... let your Auto do the straight lines..
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
SS is for curvy roads... let your Auto do the straight lines..
Really? fsttyms1 do you think that's the reason why was because I was using SS?

I guess next time I will try both on a couple runs.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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TCS on or off??
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JRhodes88
Really? fsttyms1 do you think that's the reason why was because I was using SS?

I guess next time I will try both on a couple runs.
SS takes way too long to shift. Either gate shift or let the auto do it.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JRhodes88

What is a god shift point when in tiptronic would you say? 5,500rpm? I don't want to waste any torque
Please tell my this statement is supposed to be in red text

No you dont shift at 5500.Dont use SS, Gate Shift. Shift just before the rev-limiter kicks in. (takes practice to get it right) that way you are always in vtec and high in the power band, SS is designed for curvy roads, not 1/4 racing.
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
kinna made it sound like a TL-P runs that stock too though.. i see where the confusion came from.. and thinhthan.. 17 is outrageous.. something is wrong with your car lol.. i was low-mid 15's with NO mods and full interior.. even the spare. (99 TL-P)

i've tracked this car once.. and probably never will again
well mine got into the 14.9xx with intake and axle back exhaust (no headers or pulley) on a 50 deg night
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
well mine got into the 14.9xx with intake and axle back exhaust (no headers or pulley) on a 50 deg night
congrats.. lol

i live in Louisiana.. we dont get but 3 or 4 of those nights a year.. rarely on an open track night
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
congrats.. lol

i live in Louisiana.. we dont get but 3 or 4 of those nights a year.. rarely on an open track night
yea location, track, and temp are key.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
yea location, track, and temp are key.
seeing 14 would have been nice. but then again i went in with not so high expectations.

CAI and headers might have done it. but i've decided to dump money into looks at this point.. maybe a few bolt ons for enjoyable acceleration, thats it unless somebody makes a bolt up SC or TC
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
seeing 14 would have been nice. but then again i went in with not so high expectations.

CAI and headers might have done it. but i've decided to dump money into looks at this point.. maybe a few bolt ons for enjoyable acceleration, thats it unless somebody makes a bolt up SC or TC
some one is working on a cheaper SC which would be cool!
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
some one is working on a cheaper SC which would be cool!
be an excuse to sell some stuff and start weight reduction on this boat...

i'd have motivation to speed the car up if there was an available SC that didnt involve major fabbing that i just dont have time for.

plus... who doesnt like to hear the whinning of a SC???
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plus... who doesnt like to hear the whinning of a SC???
Its
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Please tell my this statement is supposed to be in red text

No you dont shift at 5500.Dont use SS, Gate Shift. Shift just before the rev-limiter kicks in. (takes practice to get it right) that way you are always in vtec and high in the power band, SS is designed for curvy roads, not 1/4 racing.
ooh.. so i was doing alright then...

took me long to get it right.. and gate shifting ftw..

i always had a feeling SS was kinda...

however..... gate shifting and incorporating this is..

Originally Posted by Dave_B
The technique:

1) Foot on brake
2) Put the tranny into neutral
3) Blip the throttle to around 4000rpms or so, foot still on brake. You should feel the pedal get a bit softer and you can push the brake down a bit more. Do not hold the gas to 4000rpms, simply rev up the engine and release the gas.
4) Once the rpms fall below 1000rpms, put tranny back into gear
5) While your foot still on the brake, mash the gas pedal fully and hold for nearly 1 second (no more) to bring up the rpms.
6) Release brake with gas fully depressed.

This is not neutral drop. The technique allows you to build more stall at launch (~200-300rpms more stall).
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
be an excuse to sell some stuff and start weight reduction on this boat...

i'd have motivation to speed the car up if there was an available SC that didnt involve major fabbing that i just dont have time for.

plus... who doesnt like to hear the whinning of a SC???
isnt the comptech sc bolt on? just need to change the elbow for a 98-02 accord?
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
ooh.. so i was doing alright then...

took me long to get it right.. and gate shifting ftw..

i always had a feeling SS was kinda...

however..... gate shifting and incorporating this is..
great use of the grandpa simpson, lol.

I have read that gate shifting technique before, but never tried it. Now im sad because I'm going to the track Friday but I can't run my car with my new tranny, have to break it in a little
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JRhodes88
great use of the grandpa simpson, lol.

I have read that gate shifting technique before, but never tried it. Now im sad because I'm going to the track Friday but I can't run my car with my new tranny, have to break it in a little
Take it for a few hwy trips to log 500 miles or so. I could do that in a day or 2 tops.
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isnt the comptech sc bolt on? just need to change the elbow for a 98-02 accord?
yes but eariler we were talkinga about a "reasonably priced" SC

we all know how comptech rolls
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I'm not sure how seat weight turned into Cheap Superchargers and how to shift at the track?

I guess we are all to blame sorry OP
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