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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Redline 5W-20

how much time has anyone used redline? I switched from mobil to amsoil to redline and I think i will stick with redline. The car just naturally feels like it wants to go to 90-100 mph range. I was on the nj turnpike..and i would lose thought about the speed...thats how fast the car would go with a slight nuge on the accelerator from 70 mph. But damn its smooth!
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Redline has the lowest friction among any synthetic oil on the market today. www.bobistheoilguy.com
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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In terms of synthetic oils I have tried mobil 1 and and currently using amsoil. After reading this I will definately give redline a try next time around.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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They use the most stable basestocks and use a ton of organic molybdenum. I don't think the price is worth it for most daily drivers, but if you drive hard and change your oil at moderate drain intervals, RL might be your best bet. Additives have become so much better that even your SM dino/synthetic blends are doing extremely well. Motorcraft is just one example.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Mobil 1 is not God, they are a mass production sythentic oil and quality wise they are not better than Redline and Amsoil and Royal Purple and Motul

my guy at the tuner shop likes Motul, and Amsoil (very $$)...for some reason they do not recommend Redline on my car for ATF even thou they carry them. he said it's too hard core for our tranny. and he recommneds Motul sythentic ATF for my car
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:02 AM
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Mobil 1 is not God, they are a mass production sythentic oil and quality wise they are not better than Redline and Amsoil and Royal Purple and Motul

my guy at the tuner shop likes Motul, and Amsoil (very $$)...for some reason they do not recommend Redline on my car for ATF even thou they carry them. he said it's too hard core for our tranny. and he recommneds Motul sythentic ATF for my car
nice...lucky i got the Motul Oil today ... its 5W-30.... its cost me $70 for 5 Liters( 5 bottles)....

is that expensive? I'm gonna have my oil changed tomorrow night at my friends house....

Hope fully everything works out
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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I've spent the last 3 years over at bobistheoilguy.com and if I've learned anything, it's that Mobil 1 and Amsoil are about as close as they get to being similar. Both are about 85% PAO based. Amsoil's biggest problem is oxidative thickenning. Quality oil but not the best anymore.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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nice...lucky i got the Motul Oil today ... its 5W-30.... its cost me $70 for 5 Liters( 5 bottles)....

is that expensive? I'm gonna have my oil changed tomorrow night at my friends house....

Hope fully everything works out
$70 CAD for enough oil for ONE oil change??? Seriously??! I hope I'm mistaken...cuz you can get enough oil to do a full change for about $28 + tax.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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for some reason they do not recommend Redline on my car for ATF even thou they carry them. he said it's too hard core for our tranny.
What does he mean it is too "hardcore" for our trannies? Have no idea what that even means, Sam. ????
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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:49 AM
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$70 CAD for enough oil for ONE oil change??? Seriously??! I hope I'm mistaken...cuz you can get enough oil to do a full change for about $28 + tax.
But I can run this Motul 8100 synthetic motor oil for about 9 months....

where normal oil is about every 3 months
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chewi
But I can run this Motul 8100 synthetic motor oil for about 9 months....

where normal oil is about every 3 months
Ahh..okay. Good luck. Personally, I wouldn't keep *any* oil running as long as nine months/certain number of kilometres....especially considering the severe weather conditions and changes we get here in Canada. ...But that's just me and my paranoia. I would change it at a much more regular interval regardless - so there's no way I'd ever spend that much $$ on a single oil change.

Let us know how it goes.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chewi
nice...lucky i got the Motul Oil today ... its 5W-30.... its cost me $70 for 5 Liters( 5 bottles)....

is that expensive? I'm gonna have my oil changed tomorrow night at my friends house....

Hope fully everything works out
70 dollars and do on ur own?

i can do 75 for the same motul oil at my garage
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Old May 4, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
What does he mean it is too "hardcore" for our trannies? Have no idea what that even means, Sam. ????
Bump.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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can i switch to mobil 1 or red line now that my cars has 48000miles (i always used regular oil, changed it every 2000-2500 miles)
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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im at 53K and still use reg. oil
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
What does he mean it is too "hardcore" for our trannies? Have no idea what that even means, Sam. ????
Racing ATF will make the tranny shifts not as smooth as regular ATF, as i was told
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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Redline has the lowest friction among any synthetic oil on the market today. www.bobistheoilguy.com
Not sure how your coming to this conclusion. According to the PDF chart amsoil is still better. Their top line motor oils are the series 2000 & 3000.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
70 dollars and do on ur own?

i can do 75 for the same motul oil at my garage
Difference is only $5.... still wayyyy out of range for an oil change, if you ask me. Wow....
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Old May 5, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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I paid 6 dollars per quart for 5 quarts of amsoil + 9 dollars for the amsoil filter = 39
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Old May 5, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Hmmm..i dunno...

OK..so i paid Cash $70 CAD ..no TAX for 5 Bottles of Motul 8100 Motor Oil and a oem honda Filter.....

Yes i did my own oil change....


I thought i was getting a good deal.... but I guess i'm not =(.....
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Old May 5, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chewi
Hmmm..i dunno...

I thought i was getting a good deal.... but I guess i'm not =(.....
A good deal is only as good as the buyer thinks it is. If you're happy with the amount of money you spent and are willing to spend it - then don't worry about it! Enjoy!

*Personally*, I don't care what kind of oil it is, how pretty the bottle is or how long it is 'supposed' to last, I wouldn't pay that much for an oil change. That's just cuz I know I would change the oil on a shorter interval than you are planning to anyway. So the amount spent would be way more money than I'd want to throw out on a single oil change.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
Difference is only $5.... still wayyyy out of range for an oil change, if you ask me. Wow....

labour is around 25 dollars and that's fair if the oil and filter costs 50 CAD

which is about 40 US

but you still have to change in 6 months anyways, i don't buy the idea of leaving the oil longer

mobil 1 and redline only recommneds you change oil no more than 6 months, and i drive only 10000 miles a yr, so i will be paying a lot more which driving low mileage
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Old May 5, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Ahh..okay. Good luck. Personally, I wouldn't keep *any* oil running as long as nine months/certain number of kilometres....especially considering the severe weather conditions and changes we get here in Canada. ...But that's just me and my paranoia. I would change it at a much more regular interval regardless - so there's no way I'd ever spend that much $$ on a single oil change.

Let us know how it goes.
thats just your paranoia. the old 3 month 3k mile crap isnt the same as it use to be. my driving is probably the most severe on this forum. tons of stop and go, my car typically idles ALL day long (with the exception of lunch) it gets driven hard and the temps here like canada go from 1 extreme to the other. ive been running 8k oilchanges with mobil 1 and am now at 15k intervals. and no one can say that it isnt good for teh engine, cause i have 179,000 miles (not kilometers) and it doesnt burn a drop of oil durring that time, the compression is right up at factory specs yet, and i have teh oil tested every other change and they (the test results) always have come back with there being 3+ TBN (life left in the oil, the higher the better).ive saved aton of miney using synthetic over regular ol.

just my
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Old May 5, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Regular min. oils that now meet the GF-4 spec have become so good, that for moderate drain intervals up to 7k miles, are really the way to go.

Regarding RL. They use a Polyolester basestock that will maintain it's viscosity better then Amsoil's PAO/Ester combo. What RL found in testing Amsoil, and it does show with what we see all the time over at BITOG, is that Amsoil will thicken greatly over an extended drain and when it thickens it will loose it's ability to lubricate as effectively and reduce friction.

RL is over kill for daily drivers IMO. Great racing oil though.....I also wouldn't put any stock into the four ball wear test. Has no relation to oils in gas engines. It's a grease test.....Amsoil's marketing is very "slick" IMO. A bit overkill for my tastes.

....the sleeper oils these days appear to be Motorcraft, Chevron Supreme, Havoline.
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Originally Posted by Honda2.4
Regular min. oils that now meet the GF-4 spec have become so good, that for moderate drain intervals up to 7k miles, are really the way to go.

Regarding RL. They use a Polyolester basestock that will maintain it's viscosity better then Amsoil's PAO/Ester combo. What RL found in testing Amsoil, and it does show with what we see all the time over at BITOG, is that Amsoil will thicken greatly over an extended drain and when it thickens it will loose it's ability to lubricate as effectively and reduce friction.

RL is over kill for daily drivers IMO. Great racing oil though.....I also wouldn't put any stock into the four ball wear test. Has no relation to oils in gas engines. It's a grease test.....Amsoil's marketing is very "slick" IMO. A bit overkill for my tastes.

....the sleeper oils these days appear to be Motorcraft, Chevron Supreme, Havoline.
what about penzoil castrol...
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what about penzoil castrol...
you couldnt pay me to use penzoil. i used it once in my boat, and 4 gallons of fuel later i was dropping acouple grand for a new engine
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Old May 5, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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you couldnt pay me to use penzoil. i used it once in my boat, and 4 gallons of fuel later i was dropping acouple grand for a new engine
Yeah, I don't think Pennzoil is very good either..or Quaker State. The good old Castrol GTX always did me well, I have been using the Castrol Syntec for about 7 years in my Accord with no problems.
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i always used quakerstate in the past and never had bad results. castrol either. now m stuck on synthetic only
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Old May 5, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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well i guess i'll check my oil every month to see how dirty it gets....

i beleive i will probably change my oil every 6 months instead of 9....

my buddy told me its suppose to last as long as 9 months but off course no one really waits that long...

anyways..... when its time for another oil change, i'm gonna look around for some better deals on the motul motor oils.....

Thank you all for letting me know that there are better deals out there....

Atleast I learned soemthing =)
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Old May 6, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chewi
well i guess i'll check my oil every month to see how dirty it gets....

i beleive i will probably change my oil every 6 months instead of 9....

my buddy told me its suppose to last as long as 9 months but off course no one really waits that long...

anyways..... when its time for another oil change, i'm gonna look around for some better deals on the motul motor oils.....

Thank you all for letting me know that there are better deals out there....

Atleast I learned soemthing =)
you have to realize color doesnt mean dirty. so there isnt any way to check for any thing other than level of it. change over to syn, then when you think its time (like you say 6 months) get a oil test kit (free) and change the oil and get a sample and send it it blackstone labs (lab work costs about 20 bucks, but for piece of mind its worth it, pluss they are able to tell you quite a bit about your engine). and you will have your results
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Old May 6, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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The dirtier an oil gets, the better a job its doing. Oil is supposed to get dirty, and keep the contaminants in suspension. The only way to tell how good a job your oil is doing is to have it analyzed. check One of the best places to have this done is Blackstone labs, check em out.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you have to realize color doesnt mean dirty. so there isnt any way to check for any thing other than level of it. change over to syn, then when you think its time (like you say 6 months) get a oil test kit (free) and change the oil and get a sample and send it it blackstone labs (lab work costs about 20 bucks, but for piece of mind its worth it, pluss they are able to tell you quite a bit about your engine). and you will have your results
where can i get this oil test kit?
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Old May 6, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you have to realize color doesnt mean dirty. so there isnt any way to check for any thing other than level of it. change over to syn, then when you think its time (like you say 6 months) get a oil test kit (free) and change the oil and get a sample and send it it blackstone labs (lab work costs about 20 bucks, but for piece of mind its worth it, pluss they are able to tell you quite a bit about your engine). and you will have your results

yeah, more info please..
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Hmmm..i dunno...

OK..so i paid Cash $70 CAD ..no TAX for 5 Bottles of Motul 8100 Motor Oil and a oem honda Filter.....

Yes i did my own oil change....


I thought i was getting a good deal.... but I guess i'm not =(.....

i am in vanoucver, BC and i have been using motul 8100 since 12000km. now i am at 60000km. i tried motul tech lite 0w30, motul 8100e 5w30 and motul 300v right now. this 300v is a waste of money and it is damn expensive. i feel no difference between the 300v and 8100 5w30. the 5w30 is good b/c it cost 10.99Cad per liter and 1 k&n filter cost 17Cad here in vancouver.

My oil change interval is 9000km. motul is saying i can go to 12000km on regular driving basis.
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What do they use at the dealerships? I believe mine uses Valvoline.
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where can i get this oil test kit?
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/free_test_kit.html
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thanks!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Honda2.4
Regular min. oils that now meet the GF-4 spec have become so good, that for moderate drain intervals up to 7k miles, are really the way to go.

Regarding RL. They use a Polyolester basestock that will maintain it's viscosity better then Amsoil's PAO/Ester combo. What RL found in testing Amsoil, and it does show with what we see all the time over at BITOG, is that Amsoil will thicken greatly over an extended drain and when it thickens it will loose it's ability to lubricate as effectively and reduce friction.

RL is over kill for daily drivers IMO. Great racing oil though.....I also wouldn't put any stock into the four ball wear test. Has no relation to oils in gas engines. It's a grease test.....Amsoil's marketing is very "slick" IMO. A bit overkill for my tastes.

....the sleeper oils these days appear to be Motorcraft, Chevron Supreme, Havoline.

How long is Havoline good for in regular urban driving? If thats the case...the SM oils are a bargain! I saw Havoline for 1.28 a quart @ Advanced Auto. Unfortunately they stopped stocking Redline @ Advanced Auto.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aaroncheung
i am in vanoucver, BC and i have been using motul 8100 since 12000km. now i am at 60000km. i tried motul tech lite 0w30, motul 8100e 5w30 and motul 300v right now. this 300v is a waste of money and it is damn expensive. i feel no difference between the 300v and 8100 5w30. the 5w30 is good b/c it cost 10.99Cad per liter and 1 k&n filter cost 17Cad here in vancouver.

My oil change interval is 9000km. motul is saying i can go to 12000km on regular driving basis.
hey Aaron....where did u buy your Motul Oil?
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Anyone who says they can 'feel a difference' between oils is smoking crack. Geez.
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