Razo or PIAA bulbs?

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Razo or PIAA bulbs?

Which one is better in quality, durability, and lighting? For H3, H4, 9006 or any actually...
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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I Used PIAAs before and the DON'T last long. Unless you get some form of warranty to replace the busted bulb where you bought it, I'd say, it's a waste of money.

Some buy it for looks which may be good for the ego, but I'd say, no beneficial added lighting from stock.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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get some eaglite from www.midnightmoose.com much cheaper than both of those and last the same time or longer...
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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So if PIAAs suck, why is it that they are so popular... what would you think is the BEST brand for any bulbs (regardless of price).
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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razo is great & definitely last longer than PIAA. however, they both aren't cheap. IMO, all those "super white" won't last long & therefore it's better to find the cheapest one.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by thsiao
So if PIAAs suck, why is it that they are so popular... what would you think is the BEST brand for any bulbs (regardless of price).

PIAAs are popular among the ricer community because their purplish "color" resembles the closest imitation of a halogen bulb to actual HID. These are ricers who want the HID look on their subcompacts. Some PIAAs and other brands have versions that are higher than stock wattage (not recommended).

On my other car, I used Philips Blue Visions for the headlamps. Not necessarily "blue" but gives a whiter beam than stock. I've had those on since Jan 2001 and they still work.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 03:06 AM
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PIAA bulbs are very high quality and they last pretty damn long. The only reason it wouldn't last long is if the bulb was touched and not cleaned with alcohol.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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PIAA bulbs are very high quality and they last pretty damn long. The only reason it wouldn't last long is if the bulb was touched and not cleaned with alcohol.
You're the only one I know who said that. Everyone else including myself had the experience of their short life and the relation of their price to the life of the bulb.

And the thing about alcohol? What's that?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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How long would you say a PIAA last and a RAZO last?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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PIAA 4-6 months vs RAZO 8 months. that's based on my personal experience.

Originally posted by thsiao
How long would you say a PIAA last and a RAZO last?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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What would then be the LONGEST LASTING after market bulbs that are white?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by vicman17
PIAAs are popular among the ricer community because their purplish "color" resembles the closest imitation of a halogen bulb to actual HID. These are ricers who want the HID look on their subcompacts.
Wow I resent this, if one is looking for the best in the market I can tell you this, look no further than PIAA or HELLA. When people don't follow the instructions, that's when they fail. Now I'm not saying that the bulbs are perfect but the craftmanship is superior to just about everything out there.
The comment about alcohol is very correct, if you touch the bulb you have to clean it with alcohol to take all the grease off.
As far as beneficial, I can tell you that one, the amp consumption is lower and two, the output is higher than just about all the bulbs out there.
Finally, I use PIAA bulbs for years and my wife's car have them for 4yrs now (Honda Accord EX) and I use them in my Maxima (headlights and fog lights) for more than 3yrs without failing before I traded for the TLS; now, my TLS have them in the fog lights and high beam (see my gallery), that's 6mo and not a hint of failing.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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So far I have tried white bulbs from Sylvania, Philips, and PIAA for my '03 fogs. Personally, I think the longest lasting white bulbs out there are the German made bulbs such as the Sylvania SilverStar 4000K and the new Philips BlueVision UltraBlue 4000K(www.powerbulbs.com). Do not get the old Bluevision if you are going to get the Philips because I bought them before and they are only slightly whiter than stock. I E-mailed Philips and they told me the BlueVisions are rated 3350K for the 9006 which would explain why the BlueVisions were yellower than the Sylvania Cool Blue (3500K) I had on before. Haven't had the chance to try the BlueVision UltraBlue as I am running PIAA Ion Yellow (2500K) right now due to the foul weather here in the Bay Area. I also used SilverStar and PIAA's Xtreme White Plus (4000K) and they are actually very similar in terms of color and brightness. From a distance like 10 feet away, they did match the stock HID color but not upclose. PIAA is popular because it has made its brand well-known in the rally racing sponsorships. They are over-hyped and their 55w = 110w claims on their packaging is misleading. If you want a legal white bulb, I suggest the SilverStar or BlueVision UltraBlue as they are priced reasonably, last long, and they use quartz glass to prevent UV damage to the plastic reflectors (or the plastic reflectors will yellow overtime) inside the light housing when the bulb is lit (something asian bulbs don't offer).
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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Wow I resent this, if one is looking for the best in the market I can tell you this, look no further than PIAA or HELLA. When people don't follow the instructions, that's when they fail. Now I'm not saying that the bulbs are perfect but the craftmanship is superior to just about everything out there.
The comment about alcohol is very correct, if you touch the bulb you have to clean it with alcohol to take all the grease off.
As far as beneficial, I can tell you that one, the amp consumption is lower and two, the output is higher than just about all the bulbs out there.
Just my $0.02 buddy, no offense.

Just expressing how I felt about the PIAAs being too hyped and all. Hellas are way superior than PIAAs (bulbs that is). Hella used to make a bulb that's called Premium Xenon, which for some reason was not available anymore. They are even better than the Philips/ Sylvania bulbs and produced and even more useful light without any coloration.

I believe it's the euro spec bulbs' different rating compared to DOT spec bulbs that make the difference. But I have also heard that there are some aspects of the euro spec that are not allowed in north america.

As for halogens, I don't think I'm going "back" to a halogen equipped car after experiencing HID.
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by vtec 6300
...they use quartz glass to prevent UV damage to the plastic reflectors (or the plastic reflectors will yellow overtime)...
Where did you find that information? I've never heard that before.
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