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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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Question: Thinking about NOS

Hi, I have a 99 TL and I've been looking for a few ways to make it faster. I've decided that my best option (seeing that I have a 99) would be to add a 50 shot of NOS. But I'm really not sure what I'd need to do. Like, what product is best for TL's...NOS, ZEX, etc and should I get a wet or a dry kit, would I need any extra parts to get it in my TL, and how much would a NOS installation be? Thanks in advance!!!
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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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bump?? i'd like to know also...are this systems constantly shooting NOS or do i press the button to shoot NOS? whats the best value...PRICE/hp.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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no clue what " bump" means either, maybe that's what is put there if someone reports the post as "Bad Post" (the lillte caution sign under peoples names)
<------------------- right there.

I don't know if NOS would put the "final nail in the coffin" or, if it is used in moderation it might be ok. I was considering it also.


And with regards to the spray technique - I like a sensor on your gas pedal much much much better than one of thoes stupid "launch" buttons.
The basics of the pedal is, you have two lights on our dash, anywhere you want, one green, one red , (any color obviously), there is a protected switch which turns the NOS on, (anywhere you want). Once the switch is turned on, the red light is illuminated, and then ONLY WHEN THE PEDAL IS "TO THE METAL" (all the way to the floor) the Nos is activated and the Green light goes on (iluminating both lights).


This is soooooo much better that the button because you can race your car, and as long as you don't put the pedal all the way to the floor (with the NOS activated with the switch) the NOS won't spray.....

plus NOS is not something you want to put into the engine while the engine is not WOT (wide out throttle). That's how the engine will blow itself (sorry about the pun or words)
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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ResidualFreedom
no clue what " bump" means either, maybe that's what is put there if someone reports the post as "Bad Post" (the lillte caution sign under peoples names)
Welcome to the forum Pat

Bump is something people post to "bump" their post to the top of the page. When people post up other things, your post gets bumped down on the list, and eventually people don't focus on yours anymore. Unless someone is looking for the same thing, in this case someone who is looking for NOS, no one will reply. So by bumping the post, you are moving it back up to the top...
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Old May 6, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sc354
Welcome to the forum Pat


Welcome to the real world Jeff, how's the high school drama :thefinger
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Old May 6, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ResidualFreedom
Welcome to the real world Jeff, how's the high school drama :thefinger
Wow, who pissed in your corn flakes???

-I don't know what I've done wrong, but all of the sudden you became a total asshole towards me, and I have lost all respect for you...
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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So, can anyone answer any of my first questions...about like what parts needed, dry or wet system, price of install, etc?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Also, what kind of stores can I get a refill on NOS at?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bdv687
Also, what kind of stores can I get a refill on NOS at?

http://nos.idealerquik.com/custinfo.asp
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Nitrous Oxide systems are pretty much idiot-proof these days as long as the installation is done correctly and the proper amount of nitrous is used.

You have to decide between wet and dry kit. Dry kit simply injects nitrous oxide in its gaseous form into the intake through a nozzle. Wet kit, on the other hand, taps into the fuel line, and mixes the nitrous oxide with the fuel before spraying it into the intake. These two are your "simple" nitrous kits.

Direct port setup is where each individual cylinder gets a delivery of nitrous oxide. Of course this set up is the most expensive, but it's the most effective and relatively safe.

Wet kit is safer in the sense you're properly mixing the fuel and nitrous before delivery. However, sometimes the fuel and nitrous (sometimes turns into its liquid form in the intake, not making it to delivery into the engine) pool up in the intake and with a spark at the right time in the right place (or wrong time and place), say bye-bye to your engine. But it's extremely rare that this happens. I've heard that the chances of running a dry kit and blowing up your engine is higher than running a wet kit and having a detonation in the intake. But there were no absolute concrete statistics to base that on, so take it for what it is.


Nitrous deliver is done in a couple of different ways. First, most kits these days use TPS switch. It only delivers nitrous when the gas pedal is pressed all the way. Another way is the one you saw in TFATF. Arm the system and push a button to deliver nitrous when you want.


Nitrous by itself is not flammable, but the bottle is highly pressurized, at around 1000 PSI. You need a blow-down tube if you want to run at the track per the regulations, but it's a good idea to get one, anyway. You don't want your bottle blowing up and tearing through the back of your car. Blow-down tube lets out excess pressure as it builds up.

In its most simplistic form, you just need a basic kit that includes bottle, solenoids, control unit, lines and nozzles. But you can get a blow-down tube, bottle warmer, carbon fiber bottle, remote bottle opener, purge kit, etc. There is A LOT of option parts you can get.


Hope that helped.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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interesting stuff...how expensinve is to refill your bottle/how long do they last?
i was considering this mod but it harms my engine and im planning to keep my '99 atleast for 2-3 more years...i've had since sep '99 @ 67kmi.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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It usually costs about 2-3 dollars per pound. So it would you about 20-30 dollars for a standard 10-pound bottle. That would give you about 10-15 quarter-mile runs. On the streets, you could probably squeeze about 20-25 shots out of 10 pounds.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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I recommend just piping it into the cabin, then you'll feel like you're going a lot faster.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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nos doesnt last too long does it...maibe its better just for show check out Kman's "mod of the day".
peace.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Your best bet is getting the zex kit. It's easy to install and make sure you get the dry kit. I have the same kit on my car and it's great
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Old May 8, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Ok, so about how much would it cost to get the NOS installed and could I just bring that to any car shop around here?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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wont NOS just f up ur engine in time?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ResidualFreedom
no clue what " bump" means either, maybe that's what is put there if someone reports the post as "Bad Post" (the lillte caution sign under peoples names)
<------------------- right there.

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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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I guess it could mean that, but it doesn't. Simply means "bump" your thread to the top. I guess different people see different meanings.

Anyway, before NOS, how about some engine mods? :p
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Old May 8, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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haha, I am getting a few engine mods...but nothing much. I'm planning on getting the Injen CAI over summer, and possibly the stone headers if I can find a set, otherwise I'll go OBX. I figure that after those mods and NOS, I'll be set for a while. But back to my other question, about how much would it cost to get the NOS installed and could I just bring that to any car shop around here?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vipvop
I recommend just piping it into the cabin, then you'll feel like you're going a lot faster.
i agree...have the purge set up inside the cabin
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Old May 11, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Ok, I have one more question, I'm going to buy the Zex spark plugs, but how many would I need for my car? Also, how much would a NOS installation run me?
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Old May 11, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bdv687
Ok, I have one more question, I'm going to buy the Zex spark plugs, but how many would I need for my car? Also, how much would a NOS installation run me?
:smackhead :smackhead :smackhead

Six spark plugs.



As for installation, probably a couple of hundred bucks.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Haha I knew the spark plugs question was going to be a bad one. How do you determine the number of spark plugs...is it the number of cylinders, or is that just a coincidence?
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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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6 cylinder = 6 plugs 4 cylinder = 4 plugs ferrari= 12 plugs, god i'd luv to test drive one of those.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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bdv687, how can you ask abou NOS and not understand how an engine works? i dont even think they should let you drive bc that was such a stupid question
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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WOW you're cool...way to bring up a 3 month old thread. And even if I didn't know how many spark plugs were in my car it doesn't mean i know nothing about the engine. Not that it's saying much but I did install my CAI by myself. And also, Zex makes some of the most fool proof NOS systems around...once I get it installed, it's almost impossible to screw it up unless you toy with the setup. Oh, and by me asking an honest question about my engine and not knowing the answer means nothing about whether or not I should drive. So I suggest that you take your 30 posts and this quite unflattering sanctimonious platitude to someone that has real problems and is not just asking an honest question. Have a nice day
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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fUCK ALL THE ARGUMENTS.. JUST BY MY NOS KIT I HAVE FOR SALE!
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 02:53 AM
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haha...I'd buy it but i don't have the money right now
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bdv687
Ok, I have one more question, I'm going to buy the Zex spark plugs, but how many would I need for my car? Also, how much would a NOS installation run me?

i woulda recommended you to install the kit yourself but 2nd thoughts NO get a professional to do it. it took me 3 hrs to install the system i'm somewhat mechanically inclined.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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im also thinking of a zex kit, the only thing that is keeping me away so far, is that i have no idea if there is anywhere near me that whould refill the zex bottle
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Wet kit is safer in the sense you're properly mixing the fuel and nitrous before delivery. However, sometimes the fuel and nitrous (sometimes turns into its liquid form in the intake, not making it to delivery into the engine) pool up in the intake and with a spark at the right time in the right place (or wrong time and place), say bye-bye to your engine. But it's extremely rare that this happens. I've heard that the chances of running a dry kit and blowing up your engine is higher than running a wet kit and having a detonation in the intake. But there were no absolute concrete statistics to base that on, so take it for what it is.

Im not too informed on nitrious but wouldnt a purge solve the problem of the fuel and nitrous not turning into liquid form in the intake?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BiggJ12
bdv687, how can you ask abou NOS and not understand how an engine works? i dont even think they should let you drive bc that was such a stupid question

this is an old thread but I once owned a 89 Nissan PU that was a 4 banger but it had 8 spark plugs. so that question wasnt that stupid.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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yup, old thread but...

NOS is for people who are too lazy to put any real comittment into their cars and just want to pull up and say "yeah...I have nos..."

Car with no mods except NOS ->

Just my though. Flame on.
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