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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Poly Filling Motor Mounts

Is it okay to fill a shot mount, or do I need to get a new one to fill it?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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umm.. what?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Pretty sure it can be done on shot mounts.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Okay good. I think Im gonna pick up the poly today..
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I guess it all depends on if you want it to vibrate or not.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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devise a way to contain it if the rubber is blown apart on the mount
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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haha, you guys should have seen the mounts i pulled out of my swap, they were atrocious. the new ones are poly filled though we'll see how that goes.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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^ sweet, ill be poly filling my front and side mounts soon. along with the 'stiffy' ETD i should be good to go for a long time.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna get on the group buy tomorrow and I will be poly filling my mounts...
I'll keep you guys posted.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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just curious.. which mount is the "shot mount".. just never heard that before..
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mista Juice
just curious.. which mount is the "shot mount".. just never heard that before..
Oh, it's not a name. It just means its shot, ie...a bad mount. Poly filled to make it stiffer.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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DONT fill a bad mount. Get a new one. Polyfilling a old wont help the fact that all the rubber on the mount is torn. It wont be near as effective as it would be on a new one.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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First I am gonna fill the bad one, for two reasons....First off, to have a practice shot at it...And secondly, I wanna see how it will feel once poly filled, since there will be a lot more vibrations. If I like it overall, I will get new mounts and do those, if not I will just get new mounts...

Is there a certain type of Polyurethane that I need? I picked up a gallon of oil based urethane for flooring from Home depot earlier today.


I will also be jumping in the group buy for the torque damper hopefully tomorrow afternoon.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
DONT fill a bad mount. Get a new one. Polyfilling a old wont help the fact that all the rubber on the mount is torn. It wont be near as effective as it would be on a new one.
Add to that the oil filled mounts will leak hydraulic fluid and will keep the poly from bonding.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Is there a certain type of Polyurethane that I need? I picked up a gallon of oil based urethane for flooring from Home depot earlier today.
No no no. Totally wrong product. I used the 3M Window Weld product but others can chime in with what they used.

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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No no no. Totally wrong product. I used the 3M Window Weld product but others can chime in with what they used.


I honestly did not think it was the right product, but 3 people at Home Depot assured me that it was what I was looking for. Where can I find that?

And how many 10.5 oz tubes would I need?

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Originally Posted by hANDYcaptd
Oh, it's not a name. It just means its shot, ie...a bad mount. Poly filled to make it stiffer.
oh.. hahah.. i thought it was some nickname for a certain mount or something.. ive seen others fill them when they were actually still in ok shape just to make them more rigid.. ive never known anyone to fill one that has already taken a crap though..
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ANC297
I honestly did not think it was the right product, but 3 people at Home Depot assured me that it was what I was looking for. Where can I find that?

And how many 10.5 oz tubes would I need?
it's like a poly urethane concrete sealant, you'll need a caulking gun. you only need one big tube if you are going to be liberal with it.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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There are also 2 part liquids you can buy. DO a search on the CL side. there are instructions and what to use
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ANC297
First I am gonna fill the bad one, for two reasons....First off, to have a practice shot at it...And secondly, I wanna see how it will feel once poly filled, since there will be a lot more vibrations. If I like it overall, I will get new mounts and do those, if not I will just get new mounts...

Is there a certain type of Polyurethane that I need? I picked up a gallon of oil based urethane for flooring from Home depot earlier today.


I will also be jumping in the group buy for the torque damper hopefully tomorrow afternoon.
WAY WRONG stuff to use
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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advice needed

i have a question on how to reinstall the front motor mount if its poly filled. since that circler top cover plate that is attached by 4 little bolts, it will be "glued" onto the motor mount from the poly. how are you going to install the 3, 14mm bolts to the bracket/engine? i had to unbolt that top plate of the mount and hold it out of the way in order to back out the 2 lower bracket bolts, otherwise the bracket bolts would hit that piece of metal.

any suggestions?


also i had a tough time getting the bolt holes to line up on the bracket, is it better to unbolt the side mount and maybe the tranny mounts when installing the front?

thanks
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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unbolt the mount bracket from the engine.
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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How long does the poly take to cure, approximately?
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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give it 24-48 hours
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ANC297
How long does the poly take to cure, approximately?
Fill it on a monday and wait till the weekend to put in Its not something i would rush.
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Id highly suggest reading thru this

From the DIY thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ly+fill+mounts
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Fill it on a monday and wait till the weekend to put in Its not something i would rush.

Hmm, I wouldnt want to rush it, but its my only car...I have to get to work and school and errands everyday. Ill see what I can do

And yeah, Ive read through that already!
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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i just ordered the Ingalls dampener today. My mounts are OK, not shot, but aren't like new. Don't all new OEM mounts come pre-filled with hydraulic fluid anyways? If so and you're mount (front) isn't shot wouldn't filling your old moujnt be the same as filling a new one?
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 03:12 AM
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Poly and hydraulic fluid are 2 completely different things...
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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I think the question is about the space for something to be inside the mount
can you can drain a `still good mount` and fill it solid
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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sbuswell-A poly filled mount is sort of in between a solid motor mount and a traditional rubber factory mount. The poly filled version should take much more abuse and essentially last longer (being that our factory mounts are crap). A lot of ppl are using this method in addition to those that did the 6mt swap. I plan on the same.

and as ANC said-poly and hydraulic are two completely different things..
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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After my mount go bad or i get some broken mount from my bro shop i will be trying something call 60 Duro rubber

You cann't buy this at any store
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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I understand the methedology behind poly filling our mounts. My question was are the OEM mounts pre-filled with hydraulic fluid when you buy them? I replaced my front and side about 2 years ago and can't remember. I think it was filled as it was pretty heavy, but not positive. My concern is if you have an older mount that is not busted can you fill it with poly considering, if it's true, that new mounts are pre-filled with hydraulic fluid before you buy them? I would think the fluid would be easy to drain out of the mount, but it would be near impossible to get it all out (residual would remain).
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
No no no. Totally wrong product. I used the 3M Window Weld product but others can chime in with what they used.

^ This.

Ive used it on my Accord mounts... works great but I suggest waiting a week before reinstalling them.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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i got all the fluid out. i cut out about 90% of the rubber and filled it with 80a ply. front and side, the side has a crack in it. dont think i let it cure long enough. the front is holding up great. need to do the rear now.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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cant fine the other pics, but ive taken more rubber out than this. and this is just the front.

Originally Posted by Rajca
i gutted the front one, spilled out all the fluid and but 80a in it. ill make "another" diy with gutting the mounts then filling them

rubber that i took out to get the fluid out and ply in




will finish the rest when i get more poly
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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found some pics from a diy i was gonna do. then i got lazy. pics speak for them selfs but ask questions and ill help u out












some brake cleaner, water, and air will clean up any residue left
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Rajca, how are vibrations on a fully filled front mount?
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