Tigerpee

Anyone use a oil extractor to pump out the tranny fluid? I read mutiple threads with positive results to change the engine oil. what about the tranny oil?

I'm wondering if the tubing of the oil extractor would fit inside the filler or dipstick hole to pump out. Wouldn't this be a much easier way of changing tranny fluid?

Ref to oil extractor: http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7400-L...pr_product_top

Ref to tranny filler hole: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...38&postcount=3


Please advise

acutee

The most effective way is to drain it by the drain plug, clean the shavings and sludge on the plug. For tranny fluid, it is not helping you any faster; you can do it without raising the car. For engine oil, you still need to get down there to remove the filter, and to make it quicker to drain oil, install fumoto drain valve. The oil extractor is good of not getting your hands dirty and you don't have to lay on the ground. If that is your most concern then the extractor works for you. Extractor does fail and you have to store it somewhere too.

Tigerpee

Thanks. Can someone confirm if I have a oil jet kit installed? Picture attached.

01tl4tl

yes - thats the oil jet kit- the hose is bringing trans fluid up to 2nd gear set

otherwise there is just a large bolt with ATF stamped on it- at least the warranty replacement units are like that

extractor kits- Sorry- the TL has a plate under the filler hole just to prevent any hose from going in there!!
Must use the drain plug to remove its trans fluid

the TL will only give up 3.1 of its 7.3 qts of fluid at one draining- acura says just drain and refill 3 qts and you are good
If you have mixed other than Honda Z1 fluid- like dex3- then you need to do a full cleanout of the system- the 3x3 method which takes 12 qts to do

01tl4tl

to refill the trans just take out the 10mm bolt holding the jet kit in and lift the assembly straight up and out

the dipstick is way too small to be refilling the trans this century

Feelo777

Dude that is one dirty engine/tranny!!

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

my tranny was replaced in 05 or 06 and it does not have a oil jet. I was under the immpression that they put the oiljet in as a band-aid for the faulty trans and when they finallt fixed the problem no more oil jet..So if you have a oil jet u have a faulty trans.. am i wrong?
You have to take out the oil jet to refill the tranny fluid.. Why suck it out like that changing the tranny fluid is easier then the oil and u do wanna wipe off all the metal shavings doing it your way might kick up all those shavings into the clutch packs!

01tl4tl

the replacement warranty trans have a new external case which allowed for the 2nd gear external oiler jet kit to be moved inside the transmission itself

the recall- oil jet kit , was to fix a specific issue with 2nd gear set and shaft lack of oiling
it is NOT the trans clutch pack fix- which is the typical failure
Another way to tell a warranty replacement is they paint the bolt heads blue at the rebuilding center

01tl4tl

as I said before- there is a metal plate built into the trans right under the filler hole

Its purpose is to keep suction hose from being used to vac out trans fluid from the top

Tigerpee

What are you talking about - it looks so clean to me

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

So if it has a oil jet kit then it is a faulty tranny .. correct?
Cuz like 01tl04tl said the newer trannys dont have a oil jet kit in the exterior there is a ATF filler bolt there!

fsttyms1

Partially.

The oil jet was for 1 OF 2 problems. It solved the severe problem that to my knowledge no one here (at least on the TL side) has ever had that failure. It had nothing to do nor was it designed for the 3rd gear clutchpack issue.
The trans redesign that seems to be holding up has it built in or they solved the issue with what ever they did as the 05+ rebuilts dont have it.

01tl4tl

if it has an oil jet kit it means its an original trans that complied with the recall issued in 2004.
Even the new replacements have some failures, not like the old days,, but some

Im not sure what defines `faulty trans`
if its been working good...

adamlee05

Kris what was the severe problem you mentioned that nobody to your knowledge has had?

When my first transmission went out in 2004 I was doing about 80 on the interstate. When I pulled over after losing power, my transmission case had a hole in it and pieces of the internals had broken off and were gone. Is that it? Was pretty severe

01tl4tl

the oil jet kit is to prevent excess heat to the 2nd gear set and shaft
Overheating can cause failure by breaking of the shaft, resulting in sudden use of 2nd gear only,,, while going 70 on the freeway

There were a few cars with that issue, thats why the recall
but those with the kit installed need only be concerned with the clutch pack heat-cooling and failure

SodaLuvr

As the others have said, the oil jet kit was installed to prevent excess heat to the second gear. This was done to reduce the likeliness of a sudden transmission lock-up. However, even if you do have the oil jet kit installed, your transmission is still very prone to sudden failure from other causes. The newer remanufactured transmissions have better quality control and an updated ECU to improve durability. Not sure on the 3rd gear improvement though, as I have not been able to get a common answer on that one.

As for using an oil extractor to pump out your ATF, it's a bad idea since this transmission has a magnetic drain plug. Each time the ATF is replaced, it is important to remove the drain plug and clean the magnet.

01tl4tl

soda- there really is a metal plate under the fill hole to PREVENT the use of suction devices