Just a quick poll....

I have to decide between the NAVI or the underbody kit. My wife is putting the smack down and is only letting me spend so much (I know, I hear the whip crackin too!).

Thanks!

 

Nav. You get the money back when you sell it.

 

NAVI!!
It not only looks cool but has much functionality as well.
I'm sure your wife can use this as well.

The kit only is for looks.

 

I agree. Go with Nav, and make the dealer throw in the rear splash guards...

Andy Kuo

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'92 Mercedes-Benz 400SE
Pearl Grey/Black

'02 Acura TL-S
Satin Silver/Ebony

Mercedes-Benz S-Class

 

If you're buying, definitely get the NAV for the resale value.
If leasing and planning to return after your term, get the kit.

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2002 TL-S Aegean Blue Pearl. Underbody Kit, Spoiler

"260 Horsepower of maximum performance. This is BLUE SUNSHINE!" - Thunderkiss '02
Sweet!!!

 

Navi of course. You can always come back at a later time and install a body kit. However, you cannot come back later and decide to install Navigation.

 

Yeah get the Navi and then give yourself a birthday present in 6 months with the kit.

Or, why not try to beat the guy down in price on the kit?

 

This is THE best response

There a a LOT of TL owners wishing they would have gone with the NAV. There is no adding factory NAV after you buy the car.

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2000 Acura 3.2 TL w/ Navigation
Satin Silver / Ebony Interior
Comptech Headers & Exhaust, Comptech Springs & Sways, Comptech Air Filter, Factory Spoiler & CD Changer, Burlwood Shift Knob, 2001 Cup Holders, 30%? Tint, Tinted Rear Plate Cover, Removed Acura & 3.2TL Badging, Removed Front Plate Holder, Yokohama Avid V4 215/55/16's On Order

 

No BRainer. Get the NAVI...

:-jon

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02 TL-S NAV w/Spoiler, Body Kit, Bowling Ball Wheel!
Comptech Springs
Comptech Exhaust
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I would get the Navi. since you can't add this to a non-navi car.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TypeSDreamin:

Okay, I think everyone that answers this question as, it's "a no brainer", is only thinking from their own personal experiences. That answer is an insult to all the non-navi TL owners. Just because you live in a large city, get lost often, need to find cash machines all the time, and etc doesn't mean the next guy does. I bought one without navi and guess what? I don't regret it one iota. Actually I feel like I got a fantastic car $2000 cheaper. An even better value! In the past 5 years I can only think of one or two times I've gotten lost. Yes, the navi would have helped me out in those situations! Would $2000 been worth getting out of those two situations? No way!

My answer to your question is get the Navi if you think you are going to use it enough to justify the $2000.

 

Steveb - Yes the NAV is expensive and some people may not need it, but the question was

Body Kit ($2060) or NAV ($2000)?

The NAV wins because the owner will get more function out of the NAV, the resale will be impacted more by the NAV, and the NAV can only be installed when the car is built.

You have a *VERY* valid point about not "neededing" the NAV, but then again, the body kit is something that is only for looks, and in that respect is not "needed".

:-jon

 

Get navi with body kit in the state where you don't need to pay sale taxes!

 

I vote for the NAV.

What state doesn't have a sales tax?



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2001 Satin Silver w/ Nav
WW Spoiler
20% Tint

 

Maybe!!........


if you get a TL-S, you no longer need to buyer either one!

 

That won't work. Even if you buy it in a state with no sales tax (do any of these exist), you have to pay the sales tax in your home state when you register the vehicle.

And it doesn't work to buy it in a state with a lower sales tax, either. You will usually have to pay the difference when you register.

Of course, you could just move to a state with no sales tax, but that might cost more than the couple thousand you'll save (and the commute would be a bit**).

 

Definitely get the navi first.
Then save some $$$ to get the kit later.

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I hear you. My wife is unwilling to replace her Civic until the end of the year. After test-driving the TL-S twice and still have to wait another 7 months makes me so depressed.

 

Sorry, what I was saying is to use my friend's address to register the car in the state(like Oregon) without sale taxes. I am an international student, I don't know whether it works or not. At least, I don't have to pay taxes to the U.S. government.

 

The bottom line is he should choose the one he will get more enjoyment out of. That's the one that wins. You can't say one wins over the other because you are not in his shoes. You can't say the owner will get more fucntion out of the Navi. He may or may not.

He could get the Navi and never use it. Can he get rid of it and get his money back? No! Again, the Navi is not for everyone and the same goes for the body kit. Everyone has different driving habits. Not everyone thinks, lives or has the same interest as you.: )

 

Get the Navi, you can always add the body kit

 

Actually guys, the NAVI only holds about 25% of it's original value after 2 years and 20% after three years according to Kelly Blue Book and MSN Carpoint.

2000 TL with NAVI adds about $500
1999 TL with NAVI adds about $420

I'd bet the body kit adds next to nothing so at least you get some money back out of the Navigation system =)

 

Navigation all the way !! As somebody pointed out earlier, the body kit can be added later on, but the Navigation has to built into the car from the factory. After-market Navigation systems can be added later on, but they do not have gyro-sensors that will pin-point your location even in an underground parking lot .

I know of a couple of people at my workplace who thought they could definitely do without the NAV since in their estimation, "it was only a cool toy". But after we went out a couple of times from the office (at times in my car), they have been regretting their decision to go the "non-nav" route, and one of them have even traded in his 2000 TL for a TL-s with Navigation (he traded in basically for the Navigation). Remember that you cannot re-trofit the Navigation into a Non-nav car....since, even though Acura mentions the NAV as an option, in reality the TL (& TL-s) comes in 2 distinct models - One with the Nav and one without....even the dash design and fan controls are different in both of these models.

just my 2c

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2000 Naples Gold 3.2TL/Navi - Factory Stock but with up-graded tires

 

Carpoint publishes KBB's figures.

But according to Edmunds, in the 2000 TL, the Navigation adds 1471 dollars, which is more logical.

Additionally, Edmund's shows the following prices for the 2000 model year TL cars:

22,378 (Trade-in Value - without Nav)
23,421 (Private Party Sale - without NAV)
25,159 (Dealer retail).

(In all the above cases, add 1471 dollars for the model equipped with the Navigation).

If you watch the rest of KBB's prices, you will find that it is illogical. Find below KBB's prices:

24,385 (Trade-in value - without NAV)
28,575 (Dealer retail - without NAV)

As you can see, KBB's prices for a used 2000 TL is 28,575 which has no logic since you could get a brand-new 2001 (without NAV) for about 27,700. No dealer would give the trade-in value that KBB claims would be obtainable for the 2000 TL without NAV.

So considering the above points, I think Edmunds is right on, about the value retained by these cars (with or without the NAV), while Carpoint/KBB need to do some more research before publishing these figures.

just my 2c

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2000 Naples Gold 3.2TL/Navi - Factory Stock but with up-graded tires

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