My TL-S dyno pull w/Comptech CAI + XS Headers

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Update

The throttle body adaptor is done, Here is a teaser pic.

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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s/c for 2k sounds good to me would it be a entire kit?
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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L's TL is my new hero....hahaha
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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ME typing to fast in a hurry

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thos numbers are pretty discouraging for me. i thought the tl-p put down 195 to the wheels stock. if thats the typ-s then the tl-p must be like 150 to the wheels or some shit
175-180 on average.
Why? Look what the car can do with the power. Its by no means a slouch. TOO many people magazine race by the #s published.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by L's TL
i hit high 13s fully bolted
Just under 13.5 for me. My problem is traction/wheel hop. Even with Z rated 235/40s i cant use first at any thing more than half throttle or its violent.
Im hoping my new shocks will give me a few 10ths. That and a better motor mount im working on. Once the 3.5 goes in i want 13flat or better.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Just under 13.5 for me. My problem is traction/wheel hop. Even with Z rated 235/40s i cant use first at any thing more than half throttle or its violent.
Im hoping my new shocks will give me a few 10ths. That and a better motor mount im working on. Once the 3.5 goes in i want 13flat or better.
is that the new box excelerate is sending you??!?!? haha

or is this just a custom self project thing..
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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once the 6 speed is in im going boost.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ts_vaj
I thought the 2G TL-S puts down between 195-200whp stock?? Or at least that's what all the other dyno charts on Azine I've seen in the past show.

I think the CL-S 6speed manual has 215-220whp stock.

What numbers are you guys putting down with your mods?
Yeah, many Type-Sers have to swallow hard when they see the results . . . the ones I've seen range from 194 to 202 . . .

Anyway, there's a lot of variables, but not with the results.

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Just under 13.5 for me. My problem is traction/wheel hop. Even with Z rated 235/40s i cant use first at any thing more than half throttle or its violent.
Im hoping my new shocks will give me a few 10ths. That and a better motor mount im working on. Once the 3.5 goes in i want 13flat or better.

Keep me posted on the motor mounts . . . still hoping that a real solution comes about. Not that poor attempt we got from Innovative Mounts.

That said, the 3rd design does have promise . . as a design that is. I've had it in the front now for about 6 months and it's still holding up. The others lasted several weeks at best. I ended up putting an OEM in the rear, and with the front and side (IM) mounts the wheel hop is still under control. Like you I used to wheel hop like a son-of-bitch, so that part is much better.

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Just under 13.5 for me. My problem is traction/wheel hop. Even with Z rated 235/40s i cant use first at any thing more than half throttle or its violent.
Im hoping my new shocks will give me a few 10ths. That and a better motor mount im working on. Once the 3.5 goes in i want 13flat or better.
Yea wheel hop is a bitch with these cars. With the auto being so much heavier up front I dont have to worry about it too much right now, but I know all of the 6speed guys have major problems with it. I know when I get a carbon fiber hood Ima an even bigger problem. I will probably poly my mounts while Im working on my tranny swap. I dont see any reason you wouldnt be able to hit 13 flat or even 12s with the 3.5. As long as you can get a decent 60ft and proper shifts you're good to go. It really all depends on the driver (and since you auto x im sure u drive pretty good). I have alot of plans for this car. For one Ima try and lighten it up. The hood is heavy as shit, along with the added weight of the AT. With the MT & a carbon fiber hood im pretty sure I can shed 300-400lbs off, that is gona help big time with acceleration. My boy who ran the 13.3 has supposedly figured out a way to advance timing on his CLS, but im waiting on him to tell me how he did it. Supposedly something with adjusting the degrees on the cam gears but Ima have him go more in detail with that. He also shaved the heads to bump up compression, gona have him explain that to me too. But Ive been in talks with a few companies about producing some cam gears for timing advance and true way to tune this motor. My goal is to hit low 13s or high 12s NA. If I can do that I wont do anything else to this car.

Originally Posted by abptltypes02
s/c for 2k sounds good to me would it be a entire kit?
here is the orginal post from my mechanic who is producing this
Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
Well, this project has been sitting on my shelf for a good year now and I am tired of it sitting so here it goes. I will be taking a Eaton M90 blower unit commonly found on E-Bay and other places from the 89-95 Thunderbird/Cougar SC editions and adapting it to work with first the 7th gen AV6 and 3rd gen TL, then the 6th gen AV6 and 2nd gen TL/CL. If sucessful this will be kitted and probably a GB issued, but first I will complete and prove the design (unlike someone else). Rebuilt M90 can be gotten from multiple sources for $600-$800, used they can be found on E-Bay for $100-$200, the one I am using for moch-up came off EBay for $125 and although tired was in working order. M90 full rebuild kits (bearings, seals, coupler, oil) can also be found for $120ish and if new rotors are needed I have seen them for $300-$400. The end goal is to have a complete system including a rebuilt M90 for $2500 or less, minus management, tuning and fuel system upgrades. For my development I plan on using a FIC for tuning and our stock injectors should hold the 6 PSI standard boost and RDX injectors for 8-10PSI HB. I plan on making the charge air system both for a FMIC/Hope/Other Liquid setup as well as the std direct connection.

Another reason for the M90 is it is much more volumetrically efficent compared to the M62 that Comptech uses. What this means is that it will run cooler and be able to provide high boost without over reving the blower. Also the M90 can provide the airflow needed to power the J35/J36 franken-engines efficently that I have been making. There is a little more parasitic loss with the M90 (about 1.5%) and it is a bigger physical unit, but I believe the benifits outway these factors.

So, let's get to it, here are some pics of the blower, I disassembled the nose assembly about a year ago to start figuring out the extension, materials for the nose extension should be here this afternoon, so in the mean time I will be working on the mounting of the blower unit.





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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Problem is might need to 6-speed swap first since these auto trannies are made of glass and won't last long with the SC.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ts_vaj
Problem is might need to 6-speed swap first since these auto trannies are made of glass and won't last long with the SC.
seriously.
and i totally agree with you on wanting to run the car into the ground as a dd.

love the 2nd gen -s
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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L's TL is my new hero....hahaha
Don't let him fool you lol, Paul from V 6 P should be your hero

The guy is a J-series genius. Other than the J35-S, he's done all the first J-series mix-ups for J33's, 36's, 37's etc. He's currently working on that super charger and a turbo ~750whp J38 Accord.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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sounds pretty legit l's wonder how the durability is tho
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adamlee05
Don't let him fool you lol, Paul from V 6 P should be your hero

The guy is a J-series genius. Other than the J35-S, he's done all the first J-series mix-ups for J33's, 36's, 37's etc. He's currently working on that super charger and a turbo ~750whp J38 Accord.
f***, with that kind of power I will need SH-AWD hahahaha. Can he convert my car into SH-AWD??
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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^--paul can do just about anything if you're willing to pay. I spend half my time on the V 6 P forums reading his builds just because of the pioneering work he has done. Check it out, you'll learn a lot.

Oh yeah almost forgot...good to see more dynographs popping up
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
f***, with that kind of power I will need SH-AWD hahahaha. Can he convert my car into SH-AWD??
we are working on getting the new parts guide & manual for the SHAWd TL since it has vtec on intake & exhaust & is a J series mated to AWd. Paul is the man fo sho Hes been my trusted mechanic for a very long time
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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holy shxt..lol...would you guys mind posting some direct links here? There are so many threads there at V6 P...thanks!
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by L's TL
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what it that thats under the engine going into?
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
holy shxt..lol...would you guys mind posting some direct links here? There are so many threads there at V6 P...thanks!
no links from competing forums on here which is why we cant type out vee 6 pee lol...jus go to 7th gen performance & u can find a bunch of stuff

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what it that thats under the engine going into?
LOL im not sure yet
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by L's TL
no links from competing forums on here which is why we cant type out vee 6 pee lol...jus go to 7th gen performance & u can find a bunch of stuff

LOL im not sure yet
Yeah, no links sucks. Just go to the v 6 peformance forums and hit 7th gen accord, then Performance section. Tons of his builds there.

As for the turbo...might the one from the old turbo J36 that blew up on the dyno, the one hes redoing as a J38. Either way...turbo-J = balls.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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Thanks guys....hm...should I keep the TL...or get a RL....it would be sweet if all these mods can be done on the RL too....
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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ah..that's good to know. But I guess it will be $$...haha
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