bug230

the last time I was in Las Vegas I rented a 300 and I wasn't all that impressed.

Tom Blasing

A buddy of mine from high school and I use dto use his mother's car a lot to get around. I swear to god it was the slowest thing on the planet, a 1984 VW Rabbit Diesel 4sp. Bamboo was quicker than this thing.

AcuraT

Thanks for the correction, I heard about the part of town... kind of scary. :sqnteek:

AcuraT

Cannot say I don't blame you, I did say I was kidding - reliability is obviously not quite everything. Otherwise, we would all be out and buying Toyota Corolla's!

Some Caddys are better than others, and others are plain miserable (I am sure plenty will speak to that effect). In any case, got to be careful. The Impala does well, though.

Type S Lady

My co-worker's son is on his second 300m, the first one kept stalling on the highway frequently. It finally stalled while he was going 75mph he demanded another one. The second would only start when it felt like it so he's getting his money back. Only one case in a billion but it goes to show all manufacturer's have problems.

john32

The worst car in the world is the pontiac aztec

Shoofin

The new 300 series is a hot car, period!
Ed

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

That's an ignorant statement. The design may not be for everyone, but the interior was laid out with some thought, and was very versatile. Also, the Versatrak system works pretty darn well, although it wasn't meant for serious offroading, obviously.


The worst car in history would be a toss-up between the Yugo and the Pinto.

bkzjimmy

if your over 40 i say go for the 300c cause u probly wont live long enough to be around for the problems..lmao j/k

bkzjimmy

i just cant stand the 300c..everyone likes it cause they say it looks like a bently......its a damn DODGE!!!

ResidualFreedom

Actually GM has actually said the Astek was a bad decision. The exterior was just too drastic of a change from anything out at the time. Now it loos like the Avalanche in a way. They actually gave alot of their corperate execs an astek for a bonus..... considering they (execs) were not allowed to sel them....the majority of them were given back!!! lololol

izzo

2005 acura RL 300 hp awd nuf said

DRDDA

300C looks great, but it's Chrysler. I would go for Jap Car.

CJITTY

Umm, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth are notorius for lack of quality and workmanship. I wouldn't do it. I know the TL's depreciate slightly more than the avg high end import car, but they will still hold value better. Not only that, but I drove a 300 with a Hemi. Very, very disappointed. I was expecting it to pin me into the seat...shoot, the TL seems hella faster off the jump. Plus, the brand new 300 I test drove, rattled and squeaked more than Michael Jackson in a room full of young boys.

MADCAT

You know what American Car was hot? The last generation Chevrolet Impala SS. Damn that thing is scary fast. 5.7-liter) V8. Too bad the styling wasn’t better.

BiggJ12

I come from a family who only bought American cars, but after working for a Honda dealership and now American Honda and after driving a 2000 TL, I would never go back. Honda/Acura's are awesome for performance, reliability, etc. No other non-luxury brand is better. Toyota/Lexus you cant beat either. Even though they may have treated you poorly at the Lexus dealership, I would give them another chance, or at least the product...hit up a different store this time. Also you may want to check out the Infiniti M45 or soemthing like that if you dont like the G35. I'm not sure how much money you have to play with, but you may want to check out the BMWs, but FYI lots more money that your TLS for the same stuff, hp, etc.

that's my 2 cents.

MJ

jayhawk815

I don't know what you are talking about. The 300C is considerably faster than a TL, especially off the line.

You mean it was POTENTIALLY scary fast? Also, as you stated, the styling was a little lacking both inside and out. The 300C, IMO, is a pretty damn good looking car.

Vicman17

The only true worth of German engineering are cars made in Germany. That is the same thing that they said about the Cadilac STS and every new car that came out there. How about the German engineered Catera from an Opel background? Their marketing scheme would attempt to take you away from the American car mentality and give you a pseudo-peace of mind that "hey I'm driving a German engineered car!". Tell that to the proud VW Jetta owners who are faced with expensive repair bills with their German engineered people's car made in Mexico. The only true dependable German egineered car is the Porsche 'coz the company backs their products up and their design is unmatched.

Personally, I would not touch the 300C or any first year model car out there. Even the 04 TL. All new cars are nice, simply 'coz they're all NEW. If you want to be a test bed and develop your keen relationship with the Daimler-Chrysler group of companies and their impeccable customer care then by all means. Just make sure you buy a pack of pens and binder refills to note down problems and if you do need to go to small claims court.

I've owned three Chryslers and have faced the same problem with their cars- inferior quality, poor mechanical components and lackluster customer care, even with their Gold Plan extended warranty, THEY dictate the stipulations when you claim, not you. Too many fine prints hide many things- primarily BAD products. Ford and GM are not very far behind. If a company spends way too much on marketing and not on proper R&D, there's something wrong. But they don't fix the problem. They just "develop" a new car hoping that the problems of old quietly go away. And the stunning car commercials will compensate for that.

It's not the German engineering, and it's not the 10-year warranty (a-la Hyundai). It's how the product will stand the test of time and backed up by caring for their customers even on the long run. I'd say 5 to 7 years down the road, I want to hear from the 300C owner who went for this hyped-up car and ask what their opinions are. This will go down the road of the Intrepid where it will just blend in with the rest of the bad autos on the road.

And by the way, it's FAST.............