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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Manual shift timing

Hey guys, Wanting to if I'm gonna race someone (short race) like from light. And I'm using sport shift what's the best timing to use for each gear?
Like at how many rpm's should I engage 2nd then 3rd then fourth. To get a perfect shift. like drag racing. oh, I'm driving a 02' TL-S. Thanks.

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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Hit the redline each and everytime before shifting.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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If you're using sport shift I'd say around 7.2- 7.3 cause theres a delay when you shift.... so it should shift 7.5-7.6. But if you wait any longer your just gonna bounce off the rev limiter. But as for gate shifting (acutally putting car into D-1 > D-2 > D-3) 7.3 would be a nice shift point. Its just my opinion that gate shifting is faster, but many will argue sport shifting, gate shifting or just simply flooring it will get you the same results.

As for a "launch", i like to hold my brakes and bring the RPMs up to 2-2.5. And turn off TCS while you're at it.

I do not promote street racing mind you. This is just what I do when I go to the track
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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You better have good tires on your car or it's gonna spin a lot..atleast it does for me haha. Sportshift shifts from 1-2 automatically..does it still do taht even though you're flooring it?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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No...if you floor it then it doesnt shift for you. Only if you drive normally that it will shift for you. So does turning off the TCS do anything when your racing?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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I dunno about "TCS" but when VCS is turned off, it will not hold back all the potential power the car can produce when it accelerates. But, with the stock tires, when VCS is off, it spins for a long time... it sucks.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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I dunno about "TCS" but when VCS is turned off, it will not hold back all the potential power the car can produce when it accelerates. But, with the stock tires, when VCS is off, it spins for a long time... it sucks.
TCS = Traction control system. In other words yes the manual says VSA, not VCS (which I dont even know what that is). VSA = Vehical stability assistance? TCS = VSA, just different things we call it.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Mines say VSA. So is it best to turn it off when I'm racing?
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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holliewhacamollie batman... This thread reads like the novel of the trolls... Why don't you guys do a little learning before giving whacked opinions and stearing the original poster onto the wrong track????
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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^^ lol true... this is chock full of inaccuracies.

On at TL-S, 1st to 2nd in sportshift will ALWAYS shift for you, regardless of how hard you're flooring it.

TCS for TL-P, VSA for TL-S.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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haha sorry tcs defenitly does not equal vsa tcs is only applys braking to slipping wheels while vsa is able to transfer power
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stiletto
holliewhacamollie batman... This thread reads like the novel of the trolls... Why don't you guys do a little learning before giving whacked opinions and stearing the original poster onto the wrong track????
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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for racing on the track (or just in a straight line), i'm one of those guys that says keepin it in 5AT, (or D5) is the best way...also fastest....
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn744
for racing on the track (or just in a straight line), i'm one of those guys that says keepin it in 5AT, (or D5) is the best way...also fastest....
Not for me... mine redlines doesn't shift fast enough in D5, SS is better because you have the ability to control when it shifts and you are also able to downshift Sorry shawn...my
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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sorry haha yea I meant VSA ..sorry about that.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Hmmm maybe its only my TL-S but I can't even push it to 7.5-7.6. Does anyone else's car hit the rev limiter at redline too or is it just mines?
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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lol...i did what crazymonkey said...n its raining over here...i did it in the parking lot...it was sweet...as soon as i let go of the brakes the wheels just let loose...i was probably going like 5mph for like 5-10secs...n the rpms were going high n i almost had to shift up...by that time i was probably going mayb 10-15mph...too bad there wasnt any smoke...
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by shawn744
for racing on the track (or just in a straight line), i'm one of those guys that says keepin it in 5AT, (or D5) is the best way...also fastest....

straight line racing D5 is best way to go. Auto on our cars will shift at the perfect time when being floored. SS is only good for an actual circuit race with turns. And yes, turning off VSA and TCS does help alot.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:22 AM
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lol...i did what crazymonkey said...n its raining over here...i did it in the parking lot...it was sweet...as soon as i let go of the brakes the wheels just let loose...i was probably going like 5mph for like 5-10secs...n the rpms were going high n i almost had to shift up...by that time i was probably going mayb 10-15mph...too bad there wasnt any smoke...

Isn't that shit bad for our cars? Just wondering? Because I hear about people doing this all the time on our cars..
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by soccerbenk
haha sorry tcs defenitly does not equal vsa tcs is only applys braking to slipping wheels while vsa is able to transfer power
Excuse me... there is no such thing on the TL-S. It would require a LSD in order to "Transfer power". What VSA does is manage power, accross both wheels, evenly. From some website:

"The TL Type-S with Sequential SportShift automatic transmission adds a unique Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) system that monitors wheel speed and lateral (cornering) stability to seamlessly integrate traction control, anti-lock braking and stability control functions. This innovative VSA System is designed to assist the driver in maintaining control during acceleration, cornering and sudden collision-avoidance maneuvers by applying brake force to the right or left front wheel as necessary, and managing the throttle and fuel injection systems."

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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reloaded
Isn't that shit bad for our cars? Just wondering? Because I hear about people doing this all the time on our cars..
i have no clue...what do the other guys think...kuz i just think the only bad is the part where u gas n brake at the sametime...i mean to me thats like choking the engine isnt?...
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