It would be common sense to say if the tl-s was about 250-400lbs lighter than it would be a true sports sedan like the Audi S4 or equivalent. so Does anyone know how to make the car lighter without sacrificing the quality of the car?

 

Spare tire for starters.

 

Lighter rims, not a big difference but every bit helps

 

Here is my suggestion :
No big subs.
No big amps.
No caps for the amps.
Lose yourself some weight.

Just my $0.02

Cheers !!!

 

replacing the front driver and passanger seats with sport ones will save u over 100lbs easily.

 

Slim-Fast??

 

racing seats, no system, take out spare, get cold air intake.....gotta be lighter than stock..lighter steering wheel, keep nothing in the car

 

the S4 weighs about 3600 lbs as well. And the weight distribution on an S4 isn't so great either. Having a manually tranny and a lot of torque from the twin turbos is what makes an S4 quick. There are guys on the audi boards running low to mid 12's in S4's with stock turbos (but many $$$ in other mods) I would say (and hate to admit)BMW makes the best balanced sedans. A 3301 with sport sus and manual tranny at 3285 lbs should be the target. Look at it this way, teh TLS is a bigger car and rear passengers really don't mind the extra weight haveing all that room back there. I think having a 6 speed like the CLS would be moer welcome then weight loss. Also, rwd would be nice. But if I had to choose one, I'd go with the 6 speed. That piggy car was made to be safe you know. Unfortunately Honda engineers can't go all out performance with the car and comprimise safety. So comparing the TLS to a campact car like a 330 isn't a great weight comparison.

 

I'd suggest fiberglass hood, drop the spare as suggested, remove the back seat, lighter wheels (OZ or Racing Hearts @ 18"), race on empty all the time, remove the AC unit, remove all accessories from engine power ..

 

The TL needs to be rear wheel drive first. Until then it will not be a true sedan.

 

Yea, like that's gona happen !

 

I think all of the above would work... but I also think it's a little rediculous. I mean, c'mon.. if you wanted more of a "true" sports sedan, you should have bought the Audi S4 or Lexus GS400/430......

w/o going crazy you can remove the spare, make sure you don't add anything heavy like a sub box, and get lighter rims.....

 

To reduce weight you would put on 18's?????????? Odd, very odd

 

Stock TLS rims are not light so it's easily possible.
Centerline makes a 19x7.5 rim that weights less than 15 lbs now.

Don't forget to replace your battery with a light weight one.

 

Still, weight matters, but also the rotation the wheel has to go through......all in all, if you are looking for true speed, larger wheels are not going to help you out.....it's a fact.....how many drag cars do you see running around with 19s?