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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Junk yard tranny!

Haha, but seriously my tranny just blew and I can only afford to go with a J/Y transmission. I know its a terrible idea, but i figured if i can find one thats an 05+ remanufactured unit, it would probably last me longer. Does anyone know if theres a way of identifying between the original and updated one? Serial numbers? Any help would be appreciated!
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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There isnt a way for sure that im aware of. ABout the only way is to lok to see if the external oiljet isnt present, BUT that trans may be a older one that never had it installed as well.
Im not sure i would touch a junkyard unit. Especially with no way to test if its a good unit before hand
So honda wont help at all? You also may want to look into ammco trans rebuilding or

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...504&highlight=
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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SodaLuvr recently found rebuilt units for 900 or something like that
As for external way to tell-- would be blue colored bolt heads on rebuilt units
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Hmm, you can tell if the tranny recall has been done if there is a hole punch above the 12th character of the engine compartment VIN. I don't know about dates of the tranny, but I do know that is how you can tell if it has been replaced at all by an Acura dealership at least.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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on the trans itself- on a shelf at the junkyard- with no vin plate to view
(anyone with replaced trans can look under the front lower left of the car and see the blue painted bolt heads on the trans to verify this info)

Look for the blue painted bolt heads on main bolts holding unit together!!!!
if not present- its not an acura rebuilt unit!!!
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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bruz the recall part install has nothing to do with the clutch failure most units experience
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Thanks guys! So far I've found a supposedly honda rebuilt unit for $2,100 shipped on ebay. So I guess ill keep digging.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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SodaLuvr recently found rebuilt units for 900 or something like that
As for external way to tell-- would be blue colored bolt heads on rebuilt units
It was more than double that.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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It was more than double that.
I found another source. These guys wanted $995 + shipping ($200 shipping I think) with a 1/12k warranty:

http://sitekreator.com/Trans-Plant/main_page.html

I was also told that they could upgrade to a 3/50k warranty for a few hundred bucks. However, they were unable to give me a clear answer regarding which updates were installed during the rebuild. I talked with Allomatic and they told me that their 3rd clutch material is slightly upgraded compared to the other ones, but aside from that, they were not aware of any updates available.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks Soda! I dropped them an email, honestly for $1000 plus a few hunrderd for a 3 year warranty, even if they didn't use updated components its still a good deal. Considering people are trying to push of J/Y trannies with over 100k on them for a grand. I just hope these dude don't screw me on my warranty when transmission number 3 gives up the ghost.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by thisisnotdave
Thanks Soda! I dropped them an email, honestly for $1000 plus a few hunrderd for a 3 year warranty, even if they didn't use updated components its still a good deal. Considering people are trying to push of J/Y trannies with over 100k on them for a grand. I just hope these dude don't screw me on my warranty when transmission number 3 gives up the ghost.
Be sure to check on the details for the warranty. Make sure you understand what is covered and what is not. Ask if labor is covered as well as who would do the work.

But before you buy a new transmission, did you check to see if your transmission is covered by the extended 7 year 9 month/109,000 mile warranty? All 2002 TLs should have this coverage with the exception of salvage title cars.

And even if you're not under warranty, Acura has offered goodwill coverage to many TL owners.

Read the Tranny Failure Thread for details:

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-problems-fixes-117/tranny-failure-thread-566833/

Pay particular attention to the last ten or so pages and the posts by 01tl4tl.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks dude, but I'm a salvage title otherwise if my tranny died id be throwing myself a party right now. I tried to do a goodwill a year and half ago when my original tranny died and the manager told me to go screw myself and not to buy rebuilt cars. The local dealerships are real jerkoffs the only respectable one is like 65 miles from me, but i figure if acura turned down a goodwill once, they'll prolly say no even if i went to another dealership. I just want this car to last till like 2010 so I can get a 4th gen on stick.

Yeah ill make sure they spell out what the warranty covers.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Just got off the phone with the guys at Trans-Plant. They quoted me at $1,195 plus $300 shipping to bk with a $550 core charge. Its got a 1yr 12k warranty, or you can upgrade it for $250 for 2yrs and $350 for 3yrs. That's a lot cheaper than that dealership that sells them on ebay. Also the guy said that they only use honda rebuild components and that the trans has all the updates. I'm gonna order it up tomorrow probably and try to haggle them down.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by thisisnotdave
Just got off the phone with the guys at Trans-Plant. They quoted me at $1,195 plus $300 shipping to bk with a $550 core charge. Its got a 1yr 12k warranty, or you can upgrade it for $250 for 2yrs and $350 for 3yrs. That's a lot cheaper than that dealership that sells them on ebay. Also the guy said that they only use honda rebuild components and that the trans has all the updates. I'm gonna order it up tomorrow probably and try to haggle them down.
Would you have to pay for the return shipping on the core?

Will you be installing it yourself? If not, what will that cost?

Also, I've read that some owners have the engine mounts replaced at the same time they replace the transmission. You might want to look into that.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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what happens is: the tech puts the car on the lift and sees the bottem of the front motor mount has its special hydraulic fluid leaking out.
If you notice a few strange oily drops on the floor, under the radiator, after being parked....front motor mount likely
Its really easy to replace the front mount with trans out- dealer only charges .3 of hour!
the part cost ~$120, its fluid filled and some years are vac boosted during hard throttle!

The passenger side mount is often found bad at the same time- use normal visual, prybar and brake/throttle test to check it
Doesnt matter if trans removed for that one.

Depending on mileage it can be smart to pull the flywheel and replace the engine rear main oil seal- $10
If it fails the trans must be removed, and at 450 pounds, not a job you want to do twice on the garage floor- IMO
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Im guessing labor is gonna be between $400 - 600, that includes changing the rear mount. I've had my front and side mounts along with both tranny mounts changed about a year ago so I'm sure theyre still in good shape. Like our transimissions these thing tend go crap out after 60k or so sometimes earlier.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisnotdave
Im guessing labor is gonna be between $400 - 600, that includes changing the rear mount. I've had my front and side mounts along with both tranny mounts changed about a year ago so I'm sure theyre still in good shape. Like our transimissions these thing tend go crap out after 60k or so sometimes earlier.
Check into what will happen if there's something wrong with the replacement transmission. Most shops will still charge you for the install and remove labor costs for a customer supplied part that turns out to be bad.

I actually ran into this once when I provided a local shop with a used transmission for a Honda Prelude that turned out to be bad. I ended up covering the labor costs and that was certainly reasonable since I had supplied the bad part.

If your shop or mechanic goes out and obtains a bad part, they will typically cover the install and remove labor costs for it. (You would, of course, still pay the labor for installing a good part.)

More likely than not, your replacement transmission will be fine, but you might want to ask about what happens if it's not.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Yeah dude, they'll probably be a little more lenient with the price if I have to come back 2nd time around these guys tend to be reasonable but im sure ill still have to pay something.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisnotdave
Just got off the phone with the guys at Trans-Plant. They quoted me at $1,195 plus $300 shipping to bk with a $550 core charge. Its got a 1yr 12k warranty, or you can upgrade it for $250 for 2yrs and $350 for 3yrs. That's a lot cheaper than that dealership that sells them on ebay. Also the guy said that they only use honda rebuild components and that the trans has all the updates. I'm gonna order it up tomorrow probably and try to haggle them down.
I thought they quoted me $995 when I called a few weeks ago, but I can't remember for sure.

Either way, $1195+$300+$350= $1845. Labor is eight hours, which is probably going to add another $600 to $800. Now you're looking at about $2400 to $2700.

I posted another thread a while back about a dealership on eBay that offered a Honda remanufactured transmission for $2095 with a 3/36 warranty. That price also includes 2-way shipping. Here's a link to that item. Remember, there's a 25% live.com cashback on buy-it-now items right now, so that would drop the price of that transmission down to under $1600.

Another option (the better one) may be to just have it rebuilt locally. Most shops can rebuild this transmission for $2500 parts and labor. Aamco even adds has the option for a lifetime extended warranty, but I think the lifetime warranty option adds another $1000.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Another option (the better one) may be to just have it rebuilt locally. Most shops can rebuild this transmission for $2500 parts and labor. Aamco even adds has the option for a lifetime extended warranty, but I think the lifetime warranty option adds another $1000.
The thing is my trans has had problems with leaks in the past, so Im not sure i'd want to have anything to do with the current tran in my car. My shop just quoted me at under $500 to replace the unit and rear mount.

How does this live.com thing work? Also those ebay guys ask for $1,200 core charge, thats a little steep for a broken hunk of metal, sounds like they'd try to screw me for that when they get my busted up tranny.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisnotdave
The thing is my trans has had problems with leaks in the past, so Im not sure i'd want to have anything to do with the current tran in my car. My shop just quoted me at under $500 to replace the unit and rear mount.

How does this live.com thing work? Also those ebay guys ask for $1,200 core charge, thats a little steep for a broken hunk of metal, sounds like they'd try to screw me for that when they get my busted up tranny.
Just about every rebuilder is going to ask for a car charge. They need a core back in order to have something to build with.

Usually they'll give you the core charge back as long as your unit doesn't have a cracked case or something of that nature.

Here's some info on the live.com discount:

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topi...838081&start=0
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
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I posted another thread a while back about a dealership on eBay that offered a Honda remanufactured transmission for $2095 with a 3/36 warranty. That price also includes 2-way shipping. Here's a link to that item. Remember, there's a 25% live.com cashback on buy-it-now items right now, so that would drop the price of that transmission down to under $1600.....
I think the maximum live.com discount is $250 so the net price would drop from $2,095 to $1,845. But that's still a substantial discount.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Yeah, the discount is capped at $250, so I think im gonna go with the 2 yr warranty which brings it to $1745 with shipping.

Just for shits and giggles I contacted Jasper for a quote and they said $3265 with shipping.

Too bad they dont make bulletproofed trannies for our cars.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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The one rebuilt by Honda might be the closest to "bulletproof."

For an extra $100 I think I'd get the Honda one.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Wassup ive been reading all ur info on rebuilts or reman does ne one know of a cheap reman for a 6 speed cl type s thanx

Sorry im new to this im stuff but if u could could u email me or i guess ill try to figure this out. Email. mrlcordova@yahoo.com thanx

Sorry cuz my tranny busted twice under a year and the shop says there warranty for man only covers 90 days im pissed thanx 4 ur help
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LACL TYPES
Wassup ive been reading all ur info on rebuilts or reman does ne one know of a cheap reman for a 6 speed cl type s thanx

Sorry im new to this im stuff but if u could could u email me or i guess ill try to figure this out. Email. mrlcordova@yahoo.com thanx

Sorry cuz my tranny busted twice under a year and the shop says there warranty for man only covers 90 days im pissed thanx 4 ur help
So you have had a 6 speed blow up?

Also if you have a CL this should be in the CL forum.
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Rear mounts don't go bad, save yourself the $$$.

Front mount goes bad, and side mounts go bad.

Simple brake TQ in Forward then Reverse will show ya a bad front or rear engine mount.

Most dealers charge about 550 to do the front or rear mounts. I know we do the fronts on MDX,CL/TL about 10x a week minimum in our shop.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DasTeknoViking
Rear mounts don't go bad, save yourself the $$$.

Front mount goes bad, and side mounts go bad.

Simple brake TQ in Forward then Reverse will show ya a bad front or rear engine mount.

Most dealers charge about 550 to do the front or rear mounts. I know we do the fronts on MDX,CL/TL about 10x a week minimum in our shop.
Dude, rear mounts go bad. Ill show you a picture of mine when they take off it and you can decide for yourself. Im sure they last much longer than front and side but they still go bad with time.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I've been with Acura for 8 years now.... and I have NEVER seen a rear mount go bad. I sell the front ones like they are goin out of style.

Unless the car was in some kinda collision and the frame is tweaked putting stress on the rear mount. I just asked my buddy who works next to me how many rear mounts hes seen go bad.... he asked if you are on drugs. We combined have done probably around 10K TL/CL/MDX transes over 8 years.

Never seen it.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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I've been with Acura for 8 years now.... and I have NEVER seen a rear mount go bad. I sell the front ones like they are goin out of style.

Unless the car was in some kinda collision and the frame is tweaked putting stress on the rear mount. I just asked my buddy who works next to me how many rear mounts hes seen go bad.... he asked if you are on drugs. We combined have done probably around 10K TL/CL/MDX transes over 8 years.

Never seen it.


Here you go, the one left is obviously the new one, the one of the right is one you would say isnt broken. Obviously the hydraulic fluid its cover in wouldn't be a sign that its broken for you either. Also the fact that my car stopped shaking violently once they changed it out wouldnt mean anything to you.

I guess I should ask you what vocational school and you ur buddy flunked out of and who you had to blow to get a get a job with acura. Thats 10k acuras over the past 8 years that you didnt service properly. K thanks bye.
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Any update on the transmission?
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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So far so good I guess... I've noticed that in the lower gears it can be a little harsh some times but maybe im just over analyzing. It only happens when im light on the gas, when I give a little a more its crisp. Also the torque converter seems a little more eager to disconnect than before.

Maybe I need to replace my front and side mounts again... I think my last tranny put too much stress on them due to constant slipping and banging around.

I have to say upshifts are perfect and almost instant. I've been been to rough with it but a couple of times I've floored on I95 to get around some assholes and I was please. Gotta say my favorite part about the TL is the 60 - 120.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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check the mounts condition for sure.
Maybe another fluid change assuming some old fluid had been sitting and varnishing the parts
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