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Old 11-03-2002, 08:49 PM
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Red face Im really worried, bad 0-60 time......

Guys, i need your inputs. I did a couple of 0-60 runs today and i got 7.8sec

what worries me is that i saw the TL-P is suposed to do between 7 and 7.5 (7.3 according to car-stats.com)

my car is ****ing slow and i wanna know why!!?!?!&!!

we were 2 in the car, the passenger weight was 220lbs, and i really need an oil change. do u think that could have been a reason???

EDIT: could i improve my 0-60 times by using synthetic oil????

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Re: Im really worried, bad 0-60 time......

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Guys, i need your inputs. I did a couple of 0-60 runs today and i got 7.8sec

what worries me is that i saw the TL-P is suposed to do between 7 and 7.5 (7.3 according to car-stats.com)

my car is ****ing slow and i wanna know why!!?!?!&!!

we were 2 in the car, the passenger weight was 220lbs, and i really need an oil change. do u think that could have been a reason???

EDIT: could i improve my 0-60 times by using synthetic oil????

thx

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first of all, only ricers do 0 - 60 with 2 people in the car.
2nd, CHANGE UR OIL!!
3rd, that slow ass time, make sure ur tranny isnt blown
Old 11-03-2002, 09:01 PM
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what was the weather like? passenger affected it, any weight can make a difference, try a different gas, new oil hav less friction than old oil. as for synthetic over regular ? doubt it
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It was about 35 outside. and i use premium gaz.


help me, im REALLY worried!!

btw, i used the brake torqued and i used both SS and gate shift.. A/C off, radio off...


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get rid of your passenger when u do 0-60...220 is alot of weight...trash it
Old 11-03-2002, 09:43 PM
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get rid of your passenger when u do 0-60...220 is alot of weight...trash it

Yeah but who's gonna press the start button on the watch???


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stop worrying, and start enjoying your ride. Seriuosly, unless u r a pro dragster, what difference does it make with 0.8sec difference? I'm not attacking you, it's just my insight. There could be many things affecting the claimed or tested 0-60 time. Weather, tire pressure, type of tarmac, total weight of your car, etc. Just like the epa gas mileage and the tested 60-0 distance. You can rarely produce the same number. I would only worry if the car was doing 80 and it's stuck in D3 and wouldn't upshift. Cheer up
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Re: Im really worried, bad 0-60 time......

What car do you have? Acura TL-P RIGHT? What Year? How Many miles on it..
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Acura says the base TL needs 8 sec 0-60 mph
- http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/n...m/id/23149.htm

Thats for a 2003

And its says 7.9 Secs on this site:
http://www.imicom.or.jp/~volvoki/compare/acuraTL.html

And its 8.0 Secs on this site: http://www.carsdirect.com/research/n...60Acceleration

THESE ARE ALL TIMES FOR TL-P Not TYPE S..
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0-60 mph? or 0-60kmh??



Either way there is something wrong.
Check to see if your actuator is engaging your vtec.
Definetly get your oil change that makes a big difference.

And if all else fails,

Run your heat for a few minutes and then turn it off with your car naturally blowing hot air into the cabin. ( This will draw heat out of your engine without taking energy by using the heater. )

I raced this 6spd Maxima once...We were dead even. So we decided to race again. This time my 200 lb. friend got out of the car. I beat him by a car length and was pulling on him.
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Originally posted by Edr0e
0-60 mph? or 0-60kmh??

Either way there is something wrong.
Check to see if your actuator is engaging your vtec.
Definetly get your oil change that makes a big difference.

And if all else fails,

Run your heat for a few minutes and then turn it off with your car naturally blowing hot air into the cabin. ( This will draw heat out of your engine without taking energy by using the heater. )

I raced this 6spd Maxima once...We were dead even. So we decided to race again. This time my 200 lb. friend got out of the car. I beat him by a car length and was pulling on him.
HOW MEAN.. You kicked your friend out of the car and left your fat friend on the road.. HOW MEAN :o :yack: :wow:
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first of all...how did u get the time? clocked by ur friend in the car??? that's kinda dumbass coz magazines got it by using some other stuff....u can't match their accurate number...

secondly...ur performance dropped a bit coz of the oil change..but syn oil doesn't help...for short runs...

thirdly...35degrees is kinda cold to get the tires in gd traction...i know how cold up there in quebec

i think ur car is fine...coz using clock method isn't ACCURATE as G-tech...
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thank you all for your inputs. And yes my VTEC is engaging. oh and Im getting an oil change hopefully this week.


and i have a 99 TL-P with 52000 miles on it.


and id like to know what's the price for a GTECH ???


thx again

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Originally posted by @cUr@-TL
thank you all for your inputs. And yes my VTEC is engaging. oh and Im getting an oil change hopefully this week.


and i have a 99 TL-P with 52000 miles on it.


and id like to know what's the price for a GTECH ???


thx again

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my friend let me borrow his G-TECH and he forgot i had it. I used it about 2 times. my 0 - 60 was like 6.7 or somethin like that, all i had then was removed airbox resonator. G-TECHs are about $100 something so its not really worth it IMO
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WHY ARE YOU WORRIED!? ACURA CLAIMS 8.0 SECS AND YOU GOT 7.8 SECS FOR THE TL.. SO YOUR JUST FINE:

Acura says the base TL needs 8 sec 0-60 mph
- http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/...fm/id/23149.htm

Thats for a 2003

And its says 7.9 Secs on this site:
http://www.imicom.or.jp/~volvoki/compare/acuraTL.html

And its 8.0 Secs on this site: http://www.carsdirect.com/research/...-60Acceleration

THESE ARE ALL TIMES FOR TL-P Not TYPE S..
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all these times are BS!
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Originally posted by @cUr@-TL
It was about 35 outside. and i use premium gaz.


help me, im REALLY worried!!

btw, i used the brake torqued and i used both SS and gate shift.. A/C off, radio off...


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hahahahaha wtf is turnin' the radio off gonna do?? :p

maybe a tune up will bring the time down.
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with te radio off its less draw from the electrical system alternator == lost hp. g-tech pro old one 149 ish new improved one 249, get on to do your testing and use those numbers that it provides
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fastest i read was 6.8sec for the TL-P and 6.3sec for the TL-S (vs the claimed 6.4 that acura now says in the brochure)

why dont u try driving around for a bit and warm up the tires...
also... are you turning off ur traction control? thats gonna obviously affect ur takeoff cuz its gonna cut ur power (but downside is that u gotta wait til the tires grip and then you launch)...

a stopwatch is not reliable as it is anyways, theres a delay between perceiving the 60mph and then hitting the button.

try what hte other guys said...
1. get rid of the 220lb passenger (and baggage inside/trunk)
2. get your oil change to see how thatll affect it
3. warm up your tires
4. turn off ur traction control and rev the engine from neutral and drop it into gear (hell u shud be able to throw it straight to D3... only need the 2nd gear to hit 60)

post ur new times and lets see how it works
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I took off the spare tire and everything that was in the trunk before i did those runs. and i disengaged TCS too....

and i brake torqued... NO gear drop for me (neutral, rev, shift)


Im getting an oil change soon , but now i have my winter tires on so i wont be able to get traction...

****ing snow



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Originally posted by @cUr@-TL
I took off the spare tire and everything that was in the trunk before i did those runs. and i disengaged TCS too....

and i brake torqued... NO gear drop for me (neutral, rev, shift)


Im getting an oil change soon , but now i have my winter tires on so i wont be able to get traction...

****ing snow



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oh ya dude i forgot you had sticky ass tires that should have shaved some time! you better get ur car checked!
i dont know where these people are getting these crazy times for a TL-P. 7.9...?! i can have 4 passangers and a ton of bricks in my trunk and run at least a 7.8
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oh ya dude i forgot you had sticky ass tires that should have shaved some time! you better get ur car checked!
Yeah they are sticky but i still got wheel spin, not a lot but a little bit...



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The way you get the Car and Driver launches is by a method called 'brake torquing'.

You get your foot on the brake, and give the car slight gas, while in first gear on your tiptronic. Then the car will be ACHING to launch, let your foot off the brake and it should break loose.

The really low 0-60 times are done by doing a neutral drop, which is achieved by putting the car in neutral, revving up to around 3000RPMs (this can vary), then dropping it into drive. Granted, those will get you to 60 fast, but it will also take you into the shop fast too

Besides, 0-60 doesn't mean much... 7 seconds, 8 seconds... who can tell teh real difference. The car is pretty quick for its size and weight, and handles well for the size and weight distribution it has.

I swear Americans have this obsession about power that has never fascinated me. Handling is #1, as long as the car isn't OBSCENELY slow. Miata comes to mind, but even that has 'decent' power.. could use more.
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isn't the 99 slower than an 00+ tl-p...gearing or some **** ???
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Originally posted by @cUr@-TL
I took off the spare tire and everything that was in the trunk before i did those runs. and i disengaged TCS too....

and i brake torqued... NO gear drop for me (neutral, rev, shift)


Im getting an oil change soon , but now i have my winter tires on so i wont be able to get traction...

****ing snow



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u did nth wrong with it....7.8 is very decent for ur 99 TL...i just realized urs is 99 with 4spd auto

MT clocked the 99TL with 7.2....
the 5spd is half a sec faster...so don't *****...
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i have never heard of the neutral drop thing....i guess u made it up?
nobody ever does that....and nobody wants to do that...

anyone here?
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I got 7.4 and 7.6 sec no problem, using the stopwatch. Even startng on some wet leaves...

Trouble is, most Honda and Acura speedometers read high by a few MPH, so when the needle was at 60, it was probably more like 0-57 mph in seven and a half-
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Originally posted by fortunate2001
I got 7.4 and 7.6 sec no problem, using the stopwatch. Even startng on some wet leaves...

Trouble is, most Honda and Acura speedometers read high by a few MPH, so when the needle was at 60, it was probably more like 0-57 mph in seven and a half-
how do u know they read wrong?
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You can cut your time by almost .05 sec by taking a nice healthy sh!t before you run...let alone a 220 lb passenger.
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.. stop worrying.. you've got a 4 gear transmission so thats slowing you down.. you have 2 people in the car.. when they test drive these cars they take everything except for stock parts out so it is lighter.. and you clocked it with a stop watch which can be inaccurate and your friend probably stopped it a tenth of a second late (humans can only react so fast) so don't worry about it.. and use synthetic oil.. it extends the life of the engine
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There was a thread here, I think, long ago, where most reported 2-4 mph higher reading than actual speed.
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The driver makes a big difference...

tenths of a second are so fast that its hard to accurately measure your cars 0-60.

Ill tell you this tho... I have a 2000 TL-P w/ 30k miles
My car bones out!!! I guess its the way I broke it in??? Could some motors be faster than others out of the factory???

I have AEM Cold Air Intake and the AEM pullies ( No problems yet)

I ve raced several Type S' CLs + TLs.

Stock CL Type S ( Brand new 300 miles ) Beat him by half a car.
( He was using Sport Shift, I was gate shifting )

AGP TL Type S ( he had Cold Air intake ) - Beat me by half a car.

2000 Accord V6 ( comp. headers/ Intake/ exhaust straightpipe)
Off the line I smoke him, but he comes back and were dead even.

2002 Subaru WRX Wagon ( Intake, BOV, etc) - Off the line he instantly took a car lead but then in the end I started to inch off his lead until we were goin 110mph.

1999 Acura Integra Type R ( Intake + Exhaust ) - Dead even

98 Eclipse GSX - No match he must of undid his wastegate because no way a stock GSX ( what he claimed) could burn like that.

2000 Subaru 2.5 RS ( I/H/E) Lost by 2 cars ALL WHEEL DRIVE IS A *****!

1999 Civic Hatch W/ GSR - Beat me by atleast 3 cars

These are just a few of the races ive been in.... I guess itz coz my car is lowered w/ kit and rimz people jus wanna race me everywhere i go...

OUr car is definelty a sleeper!!! So many ricers come up next to me and rev their little b16's only to get dusted... I love the look on their face when you pass them and your intake is roaring from da VTEC. I luv it!
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wrx is believabl because after 80mph or so, its acceleration is horrible...

as for testing ur 0-60, maybe u cud get some electronic device that wud do it correctly versus having a friend do it (too much human error)...

i had a neighbor say that his 96 Benz C230 (140 HP) was doing the 60 in about 6seconds... i told him that no way that car cud do it but hes adamant about it and i didnt bother arguing with him... ill just let some stock civic hand his ass to him and then he can rethink his 0-60 time of 6seconds
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Originally posted by samkws
i have never heard of the neutral drop thing....i guess u made it up?
nobody ever does that....and nobody wants to do that...

anyone here?
I did it like 5 times in a row before I traded my car in. They gave me a horrible trade in value so......
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Originally posted by sssick


I did it like 5 times in a row before I traded my car in. They gave me a horrible trade in value so......

i don't think it gets u faster...
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Originally posted by Eternal TL2k3
wrx is believabl because after 80mph or so, its acceleration is horrible...

as for testing ur 0-60, maybe u cud get some electronic device that wud do it correctly versus having a friend do it (too much human error)...

i had a neighbor say that his 96 Benz C230 (140 HP) was doing the 60 in about 6seconds... i told him that no way that car cud do it but hes adamant about it and i didnt bother arguing with him... ill just let some stock civic hand his ass to him and then he can rethink his 0-60 time of 6seconds
Two electronic devices measure 0-60 times, and both run over 5 grand

One's a radar gun with software.. the other relies on satellites and a sensor mounted on the car.
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or u can use calculus and algebra to find out the time it shud take to get to a certain point and then race to that point =)

of course noone is really gonna take out the time to figure out how so stopwatches is the closest thing aside from dumpin 5grand as Hercules states
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