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Old 08-18-2004 | 01:06 AM
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how can i kill my tranny?

guys, i wanna start my engine mods but im scared that if i do and then my tranny blows the dealer will gimme the "you headers fuked it speech" anyway i can screw the tranny quicker and still be in the parameters of the recall??

i feel like this is a noob Q, please excuse me
Old 08-18-2004 | 01:15 AM
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what about getting up to about 60 mph and then slamming your car in reverse?

/the toyota hated me when i tried that doing 5 mph
// does not condone this action, just sayin'
Old 08-18-2004 | 01:30 AM
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I think if you try too, it will be obvious.
Old 08-18-2004 | 02:47 AM
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lol that would be crazy

Originally Posted by Revanche
what about getting up to about 60 mph and then slamming your car in reverse?

/the toyota hated me when i tried that doing 5 mph
// does not condone this action, just sayin'
Old 08-18-2004 | 03:13 AM
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typically you can get away with a Comptech CAI and a cat back exhaust and the dealer wont say anything. Once you start doing headers or other significant things like pulleys dealers might start giving you a hard time.
Old 08-18-2004 | 04:00 AM
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Not that I recommend it, but you can probably kill the tranny faster by holding the gears that are suspect up to higher RPMs longer. I believe it's the 2nd or 3rd gear that fails, right?
Old 08-18-2004 | 06:48 AM
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Removal all transmission fluid and drive 120mph in 3rd gear
Old 08-18-2004 | 07:10 AM
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Nutural Drops... put the car in nutrul..... step on the gas, when the RPM's are way up... throw it into drive...... just keep doing them... its kills the tran
Old 08-18-2004 | 07:12 AM
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Well, I don't know about all dealers ... but my dealer said that any kindof Comptech stuff (minus maybe the supercharger) that I put on the car, wouldn't void my warranty, including the transmission. So putting headers on doesn't necessarily make it difficult to get your tranny replaced.

In addition, the Magnusson-Moss Act (1975) basically says that its the dealership's responsibility to prove that an aftermarket part caused the failure in your car. So in terms of what the law says, the burden of proof is on the dealership to prove that the headers broke your tranny.

Anyways for the Type S (not sure if this will work in your TL-P), the failure is caused by the 3rd gear clutch pack overheating and falling apart. The heat is caused mostly by constant upshifts and downshifts into 3rd gear. Just a piece of information.

If your tranny is working fine however, I don't recommend you try breaking it. You're better off leaving it be. There's a good chance that it might just be fine and you won't have any problems with it. There are some people here with high mileage TLs that are still on their original trannies.
Old 08-18-2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by t0ast
Not that I recommend it, but you can probably kill the tranny faster by holding the gears that are suspect up to higher RPMs longer. I believe it's the 2nd or 3rd gear that fails, right?
Until they tap into the computer and se its been redlined
Old 08-18-2004 | 08:28 AM
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How about contacts Upshifts/Downshifts from 2-3 and 3-2 using the SS. Since this is the problem gears it might accelerate the process.
Old 08-18-2004 | 09:06 AM
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I thought the tranny problem was because of 2nd gear being held too long... not between 2 and 3.
Old 08-18-2004 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I thought the tranny problem was because of 2nd gear being held too long... not between 2 and 3.
from what ive read in there reports, its prolonged use at a low constant rpm. i dont think hi rpm hurts it at all due to there being adaquit cooling at high rpm.

to get it to die faster just drain the tranny fluid out and start driving
Old 08-18-2004 | 11:03 AM
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You're kidding yourself if you think the people over at Acura don't read this thread. We had that problem over at s2ki.com.
Old 08-18-2004 | 12:48 PM
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two words: brake stands. you'll destroy the torque converter. my friend did this to his 02 so he could get the tranny changed when he knew it was going. worked like a charm.

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Old 08-18-2004 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LiQiCE
Well, I don't know about all dealers ... but my dealer said that any kindof Comptech stuff (minus maybe the supercharger) that I put on the car, wouldn't void my warranty, including the transmission. So putting headers on doesn't necessarily make it difficult to get your tranny replaced.

In addition, the Magnusson-Moss Act (1975) basically says that its the dealership's responsibility to prove that an aftermarket part caused the failure in your car. So in terms of what the law says, the burden of proof is on the dealership to prove that the headers broke your tranny.

Anyways for the Type S (not sure if this will work in your TL-P), the failure is caused by the 3rd gear clutch pack overheating and falling apart. The heat is caused mostly by constant upshifts and downshifts into 3rd gear. Just a piece of information.

If your tranny is working fine however, I don't recommend you try breaking it. You're better off leaving it be. There's a good chance that it might just be fine and you won't have any problems with it. There are some people here with high mileage TLs that are still on their original trannies.

i heard the same from my dealer... if you stick with comptech parts you will not voide your warrenty so i wouldnt worry about yout tranny in that case.... even the comptech SC will not void your warrenty.....
Old 08-18-2004 | 01:27 PM
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Old 08-18-2004 | 02:29 PM
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I got 3 trannys replaced with aem CAI and stone headers. The dealer never said anything.

Dont worry about modding because its a known problem that Acura will replace without argueing.
Old 08-18-2004 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scottosan
Until they tap into the computer and se its been redlined
None of us drive up to the redline. We're all conservative drivers here.
Old 08-18-2004 | 03:53 PM
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Just take it to Park Ave Acura when the tranny dies.
Old 08-18-2004 | 04:11 PM
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even if you do mod your car and the tranny blows is it not worth it for the dealership to replace your tranny? do they not get paid by Acura/Honda for the labour?????? or is this done out of the pocket of the dealership?
Old 08-18-2004 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ndawood
even if you do mod your car and the tranny blows is it not worth it for the dealership to replace your tranny? do they not get paid by Acura/Honda for the labour?????? or is this done out of the pocket of the dealership?
No, its not done out of the pocket of the dealership. Acura pays the dealership to replace the tranny. Probably less though then what we would normally pay for a tranny replacement.
Old 08-18-2004 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
from what ive read in there reports, its prolonged use at a low constant rpm.
That's what the recall is for, the 2nd gear countershaft not getting enough lubrication due driving extended periods at low rpm. THat's not the real cause of TL tranny failures.
Old 08-18-2004 | 05:37 PM
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"Extended cruising in top gear with a high engine load but small throttle opening can result in limited oil flow to second gear, causing localized heat build-up."

Get on the highway towing a trailer in fifth gear. A few hundred miles of that will probably toast it.
Old 08-25-2004 | 06:21 PM
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Remove your trunk lid,install a 5th wheel hitch,purchase 40 ft camper & tow it through the Rocky Mtns after you drain 1/2 the trans fluid.They will never know.
Old 08-25-2004 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20
Remove your trunk lid,install a 5th wheel hitch,purchase 40 ft camper & tow it through the Rocky Mtns after you drain 1/2 the trans fluid.They will never know.

HA, that just got VERY expensive. ill just wait for it to die on its own. who knows maybe it wont die at all
Old 08-25-2004 | 08:46 PM
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my tranny failed after I put in my OBX headers and the Injen CAI. They said nothing to me because those two things do not give the car so much power that it would mess up the transmission. If they do give you that speak, just tell them to prove it. I wouldn't worry about the tranny, just do your mods. If one dealer doesn't fix it, another will.
Old 08-26-2004 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by goldendragon576
If they do give you that speak, just tell them to prove it. If one dealer doesn't fix it, another will.
VERY good point!
Old 08-26-2004 | 08:45 AM
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Drive on SS in 2nd for all your in town commute. It'll heat up, gets discolored, and may eventually break a gear tooth. But why wouuld you want to do this. I thot all the TLs got recall notice?
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