I got about 4500 miles on my 02 TLS and got my first oil change done as well. Just wanted to know how often should I put fuel injector cleaner in my TLS. My other cars I used to put a bottle at every oil change but since my car is still new when should I start putting the cleaner in my car.

 

FIF is just a waste of $$$. Most name brand gas already has cleaning detergent added to their gas.

 

Yeah, what CK said. Save your money.

 

As recomended by many mechanics. A $6 bottle of injector cleaner, should have no harm, but good. IMO I would do it every oil change. Redline fuel cleaner is my bottle of choice.

 

thanx for the input...

 

I'd say the Chevron FI cleaner is also very good. I've been adding to my cars every 5K miles or so.

 

The dealerships use something called K44 and it is supposed to work really well. Most Honda/Acura specialists also carry this stuff. I believe you can only get it through the dealership or specialist.

 

I've been reading a lot about oils, and now this.

If there are people out there with knowledge on this subject, please continue this thread!

I really want to learn more about this subject. I learned a lot about different oils, synthetic and different brands. I think it would benefit a lot of people to learn about this.

Anyone do any tests?

 

I've used K44 in several of my older cars. This is probably the best cleaner I've used. I was trying all that STP, Chevron etc. fuel injector cleaners but the car still felt sluggish. I then used the 44K and response was more livlier. Only thing is that it must be pretty strong stuff if the others didn't work. Maybe that's why the dealers use it. I wouldn't use it too often. It was kinda expensive too. I think maybe somewhere around $15-18.00. Don't think I'll use it in the TLS until later down the road

 

I perform my own partial service.

I get a bottle of B12 Chemtool and put 1/3 of the bottle through the PCV valve and rest in the oil, then I use a second bottle at when I'm low on fuel (tank at E) and fill it up.

After 1/3 of the bottle goes into the PCV valve I turn the car off and wait 5 mins. After getting the car started, I drive around and watch the white smoke billow from my tailpipes. This is all the carbon that has built up b/c your combustion isn't clean and neither is your fuel/oil.

I would reccomend driving to the filling station and adding the second bottle, this way it conditions your fuel and cleans your injectors/intakes/head, etc...

It works like magic.

But I do reccomend getting the engine flush and fuel injector service every so often, it's def. worth it in the long run.

 

I just get top engine cleaning use by honda mechanics, with a very small tip inserted on the one of the Vacuum hoses, you will see a lot of white smoke coming out of the tail pipes. Then I add redline fuel cleaner. Is so easy and only 5 minutes and $10.

 

How do you do this on the TL. is kind of interesting.

PCV valve Definition:

The Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve is an emissions control device that routes unburned crankcase blowby gases back into the intake manifold where they can be reburned. The PCV system is one of the oldest emission control devices, and also one of the most beneficial. Besides totally eliminating crankcase emissions as a source of air pollution, the constant recirculation of air through the crankcase helps remove moisture which otherwise would cause sludge to form. Thus the PCV valve extends the life of the oil and engine. The PCV valve requires little maintenance. The valve and filter should be replaced somewhere around 30,000 to 50,000 miles (see the vehicle owners manual for service intervals).

 

You take off the plastic engine cover and on the rear of the engine, there is a PCV valve surrounded by a rubber boot.

You pull it out and let the car sip from the bottle.

It sends the fluid through the intake, past the intake valves, into the top of the chamber. When you turn off the car, it has a chance to settle and soak/dissolve.

When you start it up, the dissolved carbon and byproducts come out through the exhaust.

I like to drive around town with white smoke eminating from my tailpipes, so that people will wonder why a nice car like mine has emissions troubles.

B12 Chemtool is 2 dollars.

 

do you have a camera? you have to show me that. Or give me a more detail description. Never done through there.

I do it the same way, but through the motor mount solanoid Vacuum hose. Acura mechanics usually use the brake booster Vacuum hose.

the Honda top engine cleaner is $4.