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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Fuel Filter??? Do TL's have em?

I looked up in the haynes, nothing about one? I see there is one in the fuel tank..but is that seriously the only one?!
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Don't know for sure, but aren't fuel filters about as common as steering wheels on modern cars?
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Went to the dealer to have my timing belt done and the 105K package. Asked if the fuel filter was included and they said it only has one in the tank and its something that i shouldnt have to worry about. Pretty cool.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Went to the dealer to have my timing belt done and the 105K package. Asked if the fuel filter was included and they said it only has one in the tank and its something that i shouldnt have to worry about. Pretty cool.
Thats cool..I was always diligent on changing fuel filters in my cars...cheep insurance against clogged fuel injectors.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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modern cars have gone to a `sock` over the fuel inlet in the tank- thats what we have

your best bet is some seafoam or other good fuel system cleaner once a year
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Anybody ever splice in an inline filter?
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 02:36 AM
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not much room for one under the hood- in exposed rubber line to access
and pretty high pressure too~
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 03:47 AM
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Anybody ever splice in an inline filter?
What would be the point if its already being filtered?
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
What would be the point if its already being filtered?
My guess would be for easier access for replacement? Ours is in the tank but I can't imagine any type of filter being a "lifetime" filter.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hANDYcaptd
My guess would be for easier access for replacement? Ours is in the tank but I can't imagine any type of filter being a "lifetime" filter.
But why add one when there is already one in the tank? Are you planing on removing the one in the tank? If not not much point in it. mine is working just fine after all my miles. It is always submerged with fuel moving sloshing around it unlike a canister style that can plug up. There shouldnt be that much crap in your fuel anyway.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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only point would be to see if the tank filter has died, then particles could make it to a forward filter

That close to the injector rail, I would GUESS its double digit fuel pressure= 20+ psi
requiring a metal cannister and hose clamp.clip connector for it.
Which may be part of why filters are in the tank now! and one less part for makers to supply-
a dime saved here is a dollar earned there

Anyone who worked on fi cars of the 80s recalls the bleeding off of pressure- running car without fuel pump fuse until filter empty, wild spraying of fuel if procedures for that vehicle not followed...ahhh the good old days ~

but seriously- fsttyms1 adds seafoam to the tank, has no issue at 400kMILES!!!
many of us use that, or bk or redline fuel cleaner for similar effect
It gets any loose `dirt` in fuel (why are you still buying dirty gas at ripoff robbies anyway?)
pushed thru the filter-
if small enough particles, less than 1-3 microns, to still get thru its screen
(thats pretty standard size for regular `inline` filters)

it IS a reason never to run the TL or any FI car out of fuel!!! gas lubes the fuel pump and the stuff at the end of a tank might contain sediment and water
Seafoam will take care of both for you
water in the station fuel supply or in your gas tank is the bigger issue than crud -In my Opinion

wiki hygroscopic to understand the problem with atmospheric moisture absorbtion
into oils and fuel,,and winter weather against seals on station tank caps
ck your gas cap seal!

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
But why add one when there is already one in the tank? Are you planing on removing the one in the tank? If not not much point in it. mine is working just fine after all my miles. It is always submerged with fuel moving sloshing around it unlike a canister style that can plug up. There shouldnt be that much crap in your fuel anyway.
Good point. Most won't have as many miles as you anyway, so I guess 400k+ and working is pretty damn good
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
modern cars have gone to a `sock` over the fuel inlet in the tank- thats what we have
If the 2G TLs don't have a fuel filter (the sock is more a pre-filter) then what is BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0433015 for? All FI cars I've owned/worked on have had a replaceable filter which seems odd Acura did not. My '90 Eagle Talon had both a sock (strainer) on the pump and an external pre-rail.

BTW.. great forum. Just fixed a misfire CEL issue that Google brought me here and found a good thread on the common coil issue
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dsm90awd
If the 2G TLs don't have a fuel filter (the sock is more a pre-filter) then what is BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0433015 for? All FI cars I've owned/worked on have had a replaceable filter which seems odd Acura did not. My '90 Eagle Talon had both a sock (strainer) on the pump and an external pre-rail.

BTW.. great forum. Just fixed a misfire CEL issue that Google brought me here and found a good thread on the common coil issue
That is the in tank Fuel pump with filter built in. There is no replaceable fuel filter for these cars.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
That is the in tank Fuel pump with filter built in. There is no replaceable fuel filter for these cars.
The fuel pump is listed a separate item in the fuel system diagram in Rock Auto and the service manual. The item I list is the housing the pump fits into so would be a post-pump filter. At $28 seems this would be an economical replacement at higher milage service intervals? It is sold at all chain AutoStores / Amazon / RockAuto as a "fuel pump filter" so odd that I see no mention here
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dsm90awd
The fuel pump is listed a separate item in the fuel system diagram in Rock Auto and the service manual. The item I list is the housing the pump fits into so would be a post-pump filter. At $28 seems this would be an economical replacement at higher milage service intervals? It is sold at all chain AutoStores / Amazon / RockAuto as a "fuel pump filter" so odd that I see no mention here
Ill rephrase, since its a little confusing. There is no external fuel filter. Its not mentioned here because its in the tank and not easily accessible and what Most are used to and looking for like external filters that are easily accessible and under the car that one can replace in a few min every couple of years.

If you feel there is a reason to change it by all means change it. Personally, If you are going thru the measures to take it out, While in there i would just replace the fuel pump while you are at it as well. Especially since these cars are 10+ years old.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Personally, If you are going thru the measures to take it out, While in there i would just replace the fuel pump while you are at it as well. Especially since these cars are 10+ years old.
True. I think this a better filter design since is far from the engine/battery and any fuel backflow will go into the tank (not on your garage floor).

This site had the whole job pump and filter as a 30min job at the Dealor so will prol tackle both since have 140K on mine.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Hey Dsm90awd, with the ethanol blended fuel these days.....I'm surprised that there are not more problems within the fuel system. Moisture seems to be the biggest issue, but other sediments and possibly corrosion may cause residual deposits.

So, you're not really experiencing any real problems, but only desiring to perform some preventative measures ? When you decide to tackle the "30 min job" , take some pics and notes of the procedure. It may come in handy to someone down the road with these aging cars turning 200k. Thanks & good luck !
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.2TLc
Hey Dsm90awd, with the ethanol blended fuel these days.....I'm surprised that there are not more problems within the fuel system. Moisture seems to be the biggest issue, but other sediments and possibly corrosion may cause residual deposits.

So, you're not really experiencing any real problems, but only desiring to perform some preventative measures ? When you decide to tackle the "30 min job" , take some pics and notes of the procedure. It may come in handy to someone down the road with these aging cars turning 200k. Thanks & good luck !
Most premium fuels dont have the 10% blend so there shouldnt be issues. Now those using regular and the 10 and now 15% in some places may see issues, especially those that done to a lot of driving.
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