masik24

Has anyone attempted to convert the fog lights to HID? What is the part number of the stock bulbs for the fog lights? If anyone has done, please post pics.

2002 3.2TL Type-S
Stock

Bxscig

Done that myself and helped like 4 or 5 other members do that same. The part # or bulb sizE? 9006... I can post pics when I get home

hemants

I'm interested as well. Do you have to add new ballasts or just do a bulb swap?

Does it require bumper removal? Baking the fog lights?

A step by step FAQ would be great!

trancegemini19

i was planning on converting my fogs to hids also. it looks easy enough. i was just wondering for those of you who have done it, where did you mount the ballasts?

Bxscig

i mount mine right under the stock ballast. It can also go into the bumper guard. I did the same thing for 5 other ppl on their TL and did one 04 Accord.

No baking.... some custom rebasing of the bulbs may be needed to 9006 or custom mounting for the H11 on the 04 Accord fogs... wiring can be done a few ways... bumper removal is needed for what I did. I am sure that is is possible without it but probably 3x the time will be needed and it wouldnt be as clean of an install.

masik24

Thanks for the answers Bxscig, pics would be great. What is the closest color to the stock Low Beam HID lights on the 2002 Type-S? 6000K - 12000K?

Bxscig

Use the same temp, 4300K if u have stock bulbs. It is a pretty good match. Problems with it is that the fog light housing is not made for HIDs so there is some glare, and also some ppl put D2S bulbs causing a little more glare.

so if u use the same temp, they will be a little off very very slightly.

cubanlinx

Once you get HID fogs you will never go halogen again and if you need an install i can vouch for Bxscig 100 percent , he does a great install and his prices are very reasonable.

Bxscig

Slightly off because of the extra glare... it will look a little more white... nothing a quick glance can tell only if you stare and examine a little.

For example...........

shawn744

BXSCIG- can't see your pics....but will they look better/bluer than 7500k PIAA bulbs?

Bxscig

http://acura-tl.hytekhosting.com/upl..._04-11 011.jpg

http://acura-tl.hytekhosting.com/upl..._DSC02594a.JPG

Bxscig

I have never seen the 7500k PIAA bulbs, but I can imagine halogen doesnt compare to HIDs.

shawn744

the links aren't loading....lemme see if i can get a pic up of my 7500k PIAAs VS my 8000ks....

shawn744

here are the pics of my 8000k headlights VS my 7500k PIAA fog light bulbs.....i hope converting to a 8000k fog light HID kit will correct this difference in light.

http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...1429&uuid=1293

tell me what you think. -shawn

Type S Desi

6000K's are the best way to go without loosing too much light on the road. By going higher and higher up on the Kelvin scale... u decrease on the Lumen scale which is the measure of usable light, so that is why most people do 6000K and that is why car manufacturers use 4100-4300K. I've seen a car with 9 and 10000k Lights and it totally defeats the purpose of HID's cuz I think my Nokya's in my Accord lit up the road better.

shawn744

yeah i heard about losing light....i didn't really see the difference....my headlights are aimed up high anyway....light output is good enough for me. i just want the fogs to match now. anything above 8000k is nuts....that's just too dark.

Bxscig

The 7500ks look good from the pictures. Probably a much cheaper way of going than HID fogs. It looks like it would match 4300k stock bulbs. The pictures load fine for me. I'll host it else where then.

shawn744

they look white, not blue like the 8000ks....i'm looking for a better match. i COULD go with PIAA 8000k bulbs, but.....don't want to fork over ANOTHER $100 for ANOTHER set of PIAA bulbs.

Bxscig

Go with the 8000k HID kit, i'll search around. Those prices that u had mentioned before just seem too much to me though. $100 for halogens, might as well invest that into 8000ks

How much did u get the 8000k bulbs for? Just buy two ballasts and u are set and two bulbs from the place u got them originally so that it will match. 4 bulbs will be the same.

Bxscig

I cant find it less than $300. Word of advice, do not buy McCullouch and some of those other Korean brands. A lot of people said they had problems, some have said they don't. A friend had K2 MAX (Korean) for 2 years and it was goood.

Bxscig

I cant find it less than $300. Word of advice, do not buy McCullouch and some of those other Korean brands. A lot of people said they had problems, some have said they don't. A friend had K2 MAX (Korean) for 2 years and it was goood.

bumski667

umm...tried installing my kit today but only the one on the driver side works. i tested the passenger side HID by plugging it into the driver side and it lit up, so i know the bulb and ballast works. plugged it back into the passenger side and nothing. then i tried a regular bulb in the passenger side and it works fine? anyone know what's going on? is there not enough voltage going to the passenger side? thanks for any help...

so summary:
HID (Driver) works - HID (Passenger) does not light up....
but
HID (Driver) + Regular 9006 Bulb (Passenger) = Works fine...

shawn744

BXSCIG- All i need to buy is two ballasts and the bulbs right? Does it matter what kind of ballast? anywhere you know of that's cheap? and good quality of course? That way maybe it'll be most cost effective....thanks.

EDIT: okay, here's one....will these work?.....two ballasts for $99.....BTW, what's a "starter"??

Bxscig

Did you hook the ballast directly to the oem 9006 socket?

Bxscig

I dont see any link or picture... but a starter aka ignitor are seperate in certain kits.

ballast -> ignitor -> bulb like the catz hid kit

some of the built in models

ballast (with ignitor built in) -> bulb like the philips kits

bumski667

nah..i hooked the kit up correctly. i had installed them in my old accord and just transferring them over to the TL's fogs. hooked up both sides the same...driver side working...but passenger side not. took the kit on the passenger side and plugged it on the driver side and it lights up fine...moved back to passenger and nothing lights up. put the stock bulb back into the passenger to test if the socket is working, and it lights up...just doesn't light up the HID kit....weird...

Bxscig

I have seen this happen once and it was because the guy's wiring was toasted. One side would JUST NOT work no matter what but I can test 12Vs out of it and also a regular halogen would light up but not the ballast.

My explaination is that the wires can not supply the 13As of juice it needs which is about 9As more than the halogen. I fixed it for him by hooking it up to the car battery directly, bypassing the car wiring.

bumski667

yea...i was thinking it wasn't supplying enough power to it to get it ignited...
if i wire straight to the battery, wouldn't i need to add a switch in order to turn it on and off? thanks again for your help...

t0ast

Just use a relay. You flip the stock fog light switch, which turns on the relay. The relay closes, which closes a second circuit, providing power from the battery directly to the fogs. (See the "how does it works" in the ebay link below)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=36476


You should probably use a relay to control both the fogs - otherwise there would be a delay of one fog coming on if only one fog is directly connected, and the other is relayed. If you can't find an easier option than a relay, I suggest using a similar kit since it comes with sockets prewired (note this kit is for H4s not our 9006s)

t0ast

oh btw, what are good HID conversion kits out there? McCollough's the only cheap one on ebay, but is bad? I know Hella, Osram, and Phillips are good, but anyone know where to get a complete kit with sockets and rebased bulbs?

car_lost

bumski, the one that doest work... try installing it backwards. you know how the plug goes in one way and it clicks into place? well, put it in the other way... it wont click in, but it should stay and it should make a good seal as well.

car_lost

also, check to make sure that one of the wires doesnt come out of the plug when you push it in... i had that problem.

bumski667

toast - cool...i'll check that out..

car lost - do you mean reversing the pos/neg wires? wouldn't that be bad for the kit? i'm sure everything is working fine on the kit cause i plugged it into the other socket to test it....

Bxscig

I dont suggest reversing the pos/neg wires since it worked on the other side, I dont see a reason you need to. You need a relay and a fuse and that will do because the relay is triggered by the OEM stock fog harness.

Streetbikederek

You have to reverse the polarity on one side. Simply connect the plug together with one side flipped upside-down.