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Has anyone out there had a comfort problem with the Type-S drivers seatback? My 2002 is killing both my wife and me. It has a bulge just at the beltline that feels like you're resting on a brick! The lumbar support is above this area and isn't a problem.
The passenger's seatback feels fine. The dealer tells me that they have had several complaints but can't find anything wrong with the seats. Is this normal???

this is me

I dun have that problem. Did you try it out on other TL while at the dealer??If there's a problem with the seat. shouldnt the dealer replace a new seat for you since they have had many complaints about?

Cruise

Haven't had a chance to sit in another one, but I'm going by the dealer tomorrow. So far, everything has been over the phone. I can't imagine them all being this uncomfortable.

samkws

i found the seat is hard to adjust for comfort too~

need to spend some time to get used to it...

Cruise

I've given it almost 10K miles and haven't got used to it yet. My back gets sore after a hundred miles or so.

car_lost

theres nothing wrong with the seats.... they are like that. i noticed the same thing but learned to deal with it... only way to fix it is to buy another car.

cl-driver

I'd suggest one of those lumbar pillows. Something similar to these from Brookstone: http://www.brookstone.com/shop/thumb...h_words=lumbar
There are cheaper ones out there.
The TL/CL seats don't give enough lumbar support. That little switch does nothing. I personally like the seats in BMW's.

Alexxx

There is a lever on the side of your seat, try playing with it and see how it feels.

Cruise

Yes, I've given that a try but it has no effect around the beltline.

samkws

what does that lever do??

i found domestic cars having better and more comfortable seats...maybe coz they are designed for larger size ppl...

UA5-TL

the lever is the for the lumbar support....either on or off....

jpeart0

actually the lumbar lever can be adjusted and is not just on and off. Many positions in between.

AndySara

Has anyone out there had a comfort problem with the Type-S drivers seatback? My 2002 is killing both my wife and me

I had the same problem too.
The 260 HP for the TL-S is great, but the darn "sport" seats are way too hard. So are the shocks.

That was why I went with the TL-P. Don't get me wrong. I can well afford the TL-S , but this is a case of "What I want" does not equal to "what I need".
I drive 50-60 miles a day through Freeway constrution that is not scheduled to be completed till 2007. (Can't lower my car for the same reason either)
By the time it's done, it will be time for another car.

joseph1976

Cruise
I know what you're talking about. I noticed that the day i drove my car home from the dealer. It feels like there is a rod or pole lying horizontally just above your belt line. I think it's a part of seat frame.

bricot

The seats pretty much suck, even the CL seats are much different.

I think I can drive longer in my f350 without my back getting sore than I can with this car.

vandy786

Wow, the seats must be designed for short people like me. When I sit in the TLS, even for more than 3 hours in a row, I feel like I'm in heaven.

jpeart0

DITTO vandy786!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alexxx

Well what is considered short? I'd say 5'9 (me) is about average and I have no back problems while sitting in the seat given that my back is somewhat trashed.

PlanoTLS

Only thing I feel is the seam where the perf.leather meets the smooth leather at the top of the seatback. It took weeks to get used to this. It hits right on my right shoulder blade. I wish I could have TL-P seats in my TL-S!!!!

Cruise

I'm thinking of having an upholstry guy to modify my seatback. I've got to do something otherwise I can't travel over about 100 miles at a time without getting out and walking around for a few minutes. I dropped by the dealer and sat in another 2002 TL-S and also a 2003. They were just as uncomfortable as mine.

As far a reconstructing the seat, does anyone know how the side airbag works, is it in the seat and if so, where in the seat?

fsttyms1

im 6'4'' and im in the car all day 108,000 miles now and i have to say the seats are just about as comfortable as any i have sat in with the exception of my recaro racing seat

JensH

the side airbag is in the side bolster of the seats (outboard) the passenger seat contains a sensor as an integral part of the upper seat foam.Both seats have integral seat heaters as part of the foam however the passenger seat only has a bottom heater as the seat back contains the sensors for the occupnat detection system.
Auto seats are designed to fit as many people as possible however please try to remember that not all people can be fitted.Much in the same way not everybody can wear size twelve shoes.
I would advise strongly against modifying the seats especially the passenger seat due to the airbags and their relevant electronics.If you do decide to add a cushion etc.make absolutely certain that this does not interfere in any way with the airbags as in blocking them.
Jens

fahoumh

I had the exact same problem when I first got my '02 last year. It took a little while but I don't notice it anymore.

alg

Has anybode noticed a big difference with the lumber adjuster swirch on or off. I dont notice anythinf when I turn it on or off. I am wondering whether it is simply faulty in my car ?
ALG

jpeart0

alg...your lumbar must be defective. I can feel a definite deference with the lumbar on. I usually keep mine half way on.

Cruise

JensH,

Cruise

JensH,
Thanks for that informative post. I think I'll take your advice and leave the seat alone. I appreciate the help!

PeterUbers

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Hey buddy, I don't think I could drive 100 miles at a time in a floaty, cushy Buick Roadmaster or a Cadillac w/o getting up and walking it off ..