Dr. Evil 5-speed auto transmission
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Originally Posted by av6ent
Level10 is junk 'malingator' it's been posted with bad results on turbo AV6 a while ago. 4 companies tried to rebuild one and failed, Dr. Evil is the one who currently works with 4AT. I don't see any reason it shouldn't on 5AT, and yes nobody knows what they did different and they won't share the details. MrV6 (owner of v.6.p.e.r.f.o.r.m.a.n.c.e board) personally ordered one for his AV6 (Accord V6) to be ready for upcoming SEMA after numerous issues with different manufacturies/shops who attempted to rebuild one and failed. Dr. Evil again is the only one who works.
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Originally Posted by malingator
Hey I never said it was good, just that I knew some people who did. As there are only a few places that do this kind of work for our cars I thought it was worth a post...no worries
If the Dr Evoil works..GREAT, I'll probably look at getting one as soon as/if my current 2nd tranny goes....
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it doesn't surprise me though that their honda kit isn't up to par.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverTypS
i've seen plenty of people swear by level ten. supposedly the 300zx twin turbo guys are all into them too, but that's second hand information from a friend of mine who owns one so i don't know how true it is.
it doesn't surprise me though that their honda kit isn't up to par.
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it doesn't surprise me though that their honda kit isn't up to par.
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Just a heads up. The aforementioned guy who's running Dr. Evil 4AT with over 300whp has recently broke 12 sec. by running 12.8 @ 108.7mph
and using his vehicle as a daily driver, so the tranny working nothing but perfect. And 5AT CL-S guy here is in the process of obtaining Dr. Evil as well
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Yep, Serge did a wonderful job on the car and that track run. I didn't know he daily drives the car. Anyway, congrats to him! He's a cool guy! The dr.evil transmission is a great transmission. A friend recently got on an accord v6(00 model I believe).
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Originally Posted by av6ent
Just a heads up. The aforementioned guy who's running Dr. Evil 4AT with over 300whp has recently broke 12 sec. by running 12.8
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^^^^^^either way who cares about the grammar everyone knows what he meant, he posted the times you know! 12.8 in the 1/4 for a 99 TL or AV6 is very impressive. i would like to try out this tranny if I had the funds.
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What does him breaking into the 12s have to do with whether the Dr. Evil tranny is a better tranny? Answer: It doesn't. There are people on this board who have all kinds of mods, including superchargers, who drag race with the stock tranny without issues.
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Originally Posted by MikePA
What does him breaking into the 12s have to do with whether the Dr. Evil tranny is a better tranny? Answer: It doesn't. There are people on this board who have all kinds of mods, including superchargers, who drag race with the stock tranny without issues.
i will wait and see how the 5AT dr. evil's hold up in the future, because the typical failure is around 45k miles and so far as i know, Serge does not have that kind of mileage on his tranny yet.
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Originally Posted by MikePA
What does him breaking into the 12s have to do with whether the Dr. Evil tranny is a better tranny? Answer: It doesn't. There are people on this board who have all kinds of mods, including superchargers, who drag race with the stock tranny without issues.
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I didn't want a name calling but you just asked. You're an idiot
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Breaking into 12s means the car is making crazy power and heats up the gears much much faster than stock which tends to fail really fast. There is no way in hell he could run this time with stock POS, in fact his stock one failed when he reached 260whp with an old setup?
Now, with Dr. Evil not only he gets more power and break into 12s the most important is running fine with constant upshift/downshift and now he utilize the car as a daily driver.
Here are couple more points from J32A2 owner.
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The bigger the motor, the more power it puts out (more or less) and the more likely tranny were to have problems.
Another way to look at all this - think about a pot of water sitting on a gas stove. You turn the burner on high, put a cup of water in the pot, you get boiling water in say 2 minutes. Double the water, it will take roughly twice as long. The point -> it takes time @ power to heat ANY mass up (water, steel, or clutch pack material). If power is held constant, you must increase the amount of material (mass) to make it heat up less in the same period of time. Since Honda/Acura didn't redo the clutch pack design by adding discs or going to some material that resists heat (burning) better (like thermal tiles from the space shuttle I guess) - I don't think the problem is really solved. Quality control issues aside, it appears Acura is attempting to cut the power that is applied to the clutch pack during upshifts by using delays/retard but in lieu of having a fully electronic throttle, there isn't much that can be done. They may be able to help a little, but not a lot.
I can definitely confirm a noticable change in shifting around 3rd gear now that I have driven on the rebuild for a month. It seems that there is a definite lag time between the 2-3 shift as opposed to the 1-2, 3-4, and 4-5 shifts which feel about the same as with the dearly departed transmission. It is so noticable that I find it kind of annoying.
The bigger the motor, the more power it puts out (more or less) and the more likely tranny were to have problems.
Another way to look at all this - think about a pot of water sitting on a gas stove. You turn the burner on high, put a cup of water in the pot, you get boiling water in say 2 minutes. Double the water, it will take roughly twice as long. The point -> it takes time @ power to heat ANY mass up (water, steel, or clutch pack material). If power is held constant, you must increase the amount of material (mass) to make it heat up less in the same period of time. Since Honda/Acura didn't redo the clutch pack design by adding discs or going to some material that resists heat (burning) better (like thermal tiles from the space shuttle I guess) - I don't think the problem is really solved. Quality control issues aside, it appears Acura is attempting to cut the power that is applied to the clutch pack during upshifts by using delays/retard but in lieu of having a fully electronic throttle, there isn't much that can be done. They may be able to help a little, but not a lot.
I can definitely confirm a noticable change in shifting around 3rd gear now that I have driven on the rebuild for a month. It seems that there is a definite lag time between the 2-3 shift as opposed to the 1-2, 3-4, and 4-5 shifts which feel about the same as with the dearly departed transmission. It is so noticable that I find it kind of annoying.
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Also,
Remember SCTL-SS (supercharged/intercooled)? Tranny failure.
Remember Seatle-CLS (supercharged)? Tranny failure. So you still saying more HP doesn't do shit to already heated POS autotragic?
Guess what, Dr. Evil still works fine
despite the fact I personally want to know what they made different besides stronger clutch packs, better solenoids and efficient TC.
Remember SCTL-SS (supercharged/intercooled)? Tranny failure.
Remember Seatle-CLS (supercharged)? Tranny failure. So you still saying more HP doesn't do shit to already heated POS autotragic?
Guess what, Dr. Evil still works fine
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Back on 2/16 you said;
Why are you still around shilling for Dr. Evil?
And, no, I didn't ask to be called a name. Too bad Dr. Evil doesn't know what a rude and obnoxious person he has trying to sell his tranny on this forum. You think by repetitive postings you'll convince people and you respond to people who disagree with you by ranting and raving and by calling people names. You made your point months ago.
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Ok, not gonna to waste my time here since it's going nowhere.
And, no, I didn't ask to be called a name. Too bad Dr. Evil doesn't know what a rude and obnoxious person he has trying to sell his tranny on this forum. You think by repetitive postings you'll convince people and you respond to people who disagree with you by ranting and raving and by calling people names. You made your point months ago.
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I know myself and bigguyonabike were both pushing over 300whp on the stock transmission with no problems. I don't think either of our cars are daily driven though. I will say, from talking to Serge and what I have read on the v6666666performance(lol) site, I seems like a very good transmission.
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Originally Posted by MikePA
Too bad Dr. Evil doesn't know what a rude and obnoxious person he has trying to sell his tranny on this forum. You think by repetitive postings you'll convince people and you respond to people who disagree with you by ranting and raving and by calling people names. You made your point months ago.
Yet, I see this tool comment on other thread which needs to educate himself before posting the below nonsense (highlighted)
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Originally Posted by Type_S
The 4 speed tranny's never had a problem to begin with.
The Dr. Evil version is basically for the tranny to handle more power.
The TL tranny's problem is the clutchpacks.
The Dr. Evil version is basically for the tranny to handle more power.
The TL tranny's problem is the clutchpacks.
Rude you ask? I became more rude after seeing the above BS along with your own ridiculous statement that more power doesn't affect the tranny. Tell that to 4AT guys who replaced 2 and 3 times along with hundreds who dumped the Accord and mentioned 5AT members here SCTL-SS, Seatle-CLS and others who abandon the supercharged J32A2 vehicles due to the same reason - autotragic failure.
And yes, I repeat again.... those who purchased Dr. Evil [both stock and heavy modded] doing great while getting more miles on the odometer.
What cease to amaze me is that only for the last month I found the following TL tranny failure threads including those who had 2 or even 3 times replacement.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137775
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137616
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137551
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136971
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136496
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136499
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136108
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/reality-nws-136031/
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131736
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/wtf-msft-aol-merger-issues-im-having-136040/
Yet, nobody here cares about upgrading to the REAL one that works - Dr. Evil.
I guess people here like to get constant OEM POS issues and replacement
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And blk2001tlon19s you're just lucky, buddy. All others I've seen especialy those who added FI, sooner or later experienced failure with factory autotragic.
Now, I'm really over and out. I swear
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Originally Posted by av6ent
As mentioned before, I do not work for dr.evil nor automotive industry and have no interest in selling dr. evil. I posted the info here so you know it's exist since 4AT guys raved about them after numerous issues with 3rd clutch packs similar to 5AT.
Yet, I see this tool comment on other thread which needs to educate himself before posting the below nonsense (highlighted)
Rude you ask? I became more rude after seeing the above BS along with your own ridiculous statement that more power doesn't affect the tranny. Tell that to 4AT guys who replaced 2 and 3 times along with hundreds who dumped the Accord and mentioned 5AT members here SCTL-SS, Seatle-CLS and others who abandon the supercharged J32A2 vehicles due to the same reason - autotragic failure.
And yes, I repeat again.... those who purchased Dr. Evil [both stock and heavy modded] doing great while getting more miles on the odometer.
What cease to amaze me is that only for the last month I found the following TL tranny failure threads including those who had 2 or even 3 times replacement.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137775
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137616
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137551
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136971
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136496
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136499
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136108
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136031
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131736
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136040
Yet, nobody here cares about upgrading to the REAL one that works - Dr. Evil.
I guess people here like to get constant OEM POS issues and replacement![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
And blk2001tlon19s you're just lucky, buddy. All others I've seen especialy those who added FI, sooner or later experienced failure with factory autotragic.
Now, I'm really over and out. I swear
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Yet, I see this tool comment on other thread which needs to educate himself before posting the below nonsense (highlighted)
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Rude you ask? I became more rude after seeing the above BS along with your own ridiculous statement that more power doesn't affect the tranny. Tell that to 4AT guys who replaced 2 and 3 times along with hundreds who dumped the Accord and mentioned 5AT members here SCTL-SS, Seatle-CLS and others who abandon the supercharged J32A2 vehicles due to the same reason - autotragic failure.
And yes, I repeat again.... those who purchased Dr. Evil [both stock and heavy modded] doing great while getting more miles on the odometer.
What cease to amaze me is that only for the last month I found the following TL tranny failure threads including those who had 2 or even 3 times replacement.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137775
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137616
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137551
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136971
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136496
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136499
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136108
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136031
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131736
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136040
Yet, nobody here cares about upgrading to the REAL one that works - Dr. Evil.
I guess people here like to get constant OEM POS issues and replacement
![Shrug](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
And blk2001tlon19s you're just lucky, buddy. All others I've seen especialy those who added FI, sooner or later experienced failure with factory autotragic.
Now, I'm really over and out. I swear
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like said, bigguyonabike went over 100k with his auto transmission with a lot of those miles supercharged ...my car has 124k and the transsmission was replaced 2.5 years ago because of a car accident...had 35k at the time but hasn't had it changed since. My car isn't being driven currently so I'm sure the autotragic won't have the chance to go out on me like you said so I think you are wrong there buddy. The next time my turbo tl is driven, it will have a 6 speed transmission and not auto but thanks for the concern and assumption.
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and like i said before i dont care if they supposidly designed it to handle more power, i would like to know what and if they did to fix the failing 3rd gear clutchpack problem.
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...i would like to know what and if they did to fix the failing 3rd gear clutchpack problem.
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i was torque breaking to 2500-3000 daily on drag radials ,when i say daily im talking 20 times a day every day...here's an example of my stock launch...and no the mach wasnt spinning or booging....
http://media.putfile.com/raceacuramach
p.s. this thread was a redirect from a disscussion about dr evil in the 4th gen forum sorry for bringing it back to life...just saying my stock tranny was holding up to the abuse
http://media.putfile.com/raceacuramach
p.s. this thread was a redirect from a disscussion about dr evil in the 4th gen forum sorry for bringing it back to life...just saying my stock tranny was holding up to the abuse
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