Will this DIY be the same for my '01 CL?

 

It is very much the same.

 

Awesome. I'm about to hit 150k miles

Any way to check the belt for wear?

 

Is it 150k miles on original t-belt? if it is, better safe to change it rather then taking the time to check it. You can't really tell much from it by peeking at it.

Think about it, if you change the belt now, meaning you can keep the car til 300k miles for another belt change. Do you think you will still have the car by then? If you plan to keep the car til 400k miles, then either you can wait to change the belt at 200k, but you are risking it, or you will have to have the belt change the second time. This assumption thinking is to say your plan is to change the t-belt only once for the life of the car.

so here..:
- 2 t-belts (orginal belt and 1 new belt), 300k miles plan, take 300 divides 2, change at 150k. why divides by 2? because I don't think you want to keep the original belt for 300k miles.
- 3 t-belts (original belt and 2 new belts) 300k miles plan, take 300 divides 3, change at 100k miles.

 

Same motor same car (minus 2 doors)

You can pull the belt covers off but still not much to see. With the age of the car and miles id have or change it.

 

Yeah, I know I need to go ahead and do it. A lot of the miles on this beast are highway miles, so I figured I could stretch it a while. I'll probably do it in the next few months.

I have a sneaking suspicion that my tranny will go out sometime this year though, so saving the money by doing this myself will help with that cost.

Thanks guys

 

Thank you .

I will be changing the timing belt on a J35 very soon . There is some good TB information for the J35 available by searching the forums at www_dot odyclub_dot com but this tutorial is excellent .

 

I still don't understand, how do you remove tension from the timing belt?

 

First, use the battery tie down screw stick to stop the tension on auto-adjuster, then remove the belt tensioner. this belt tensioner has a cone shape on the back, so removing the bolt will slowly releasing the tension.

 

If you decide to use aftermarket parts for your timing belt change , here is a good source using top brands (Bando, NPW etc) -

www-dot-timingbeltkit-dot-com

They on ebay too , seller - scpltd123 Great positive feedback .

 

I am going to follow these step but how to align the cams? When should I use the crank holder tool? This is the first time to replace the timing belt.

Thanks.

 

Align everything on the marks after you loosen the crank bolt . Paint marks at rear of the cams as suggested in the tutorial . Some people also mark the belt too and transfer the marks to the new belt just to make sure . You will need the crank pulley tool if you plan to loose the bolt with breaker bar and you will need it to hold the it while torquing it down when you finish . Search these forums ( "crankshaft pulley tool" and use a global search engine like Google to search " Honda crankshaft pulley tool " )

 

kinda stupid question. in regards to the serpentine belt as well as the timing belt. instead of having the special belt tool and the battery tie down. why not just cut the belt? Then put the tensioner in the vice? I am still a little confused what the battery tie down looks like or does? Also whats the easiest way to drain the antifreeze? Thanks a bunch excellent post. I really appreciate it!

 

For the marks, somewhat line up the marks, but don't worry about it's precision until you got your crank bolt losen, then line it up.

Serpentine belt, you can cut it but you don't want to do that. You want to remove it properly, so you can put it back the same way you took it out.

Timing belt, I would suggest you to remove it the right way, it is not that hard to do to use the battery tiedown stick, then remove the adjuster pulley.

..but if you want cut either belt at your own risk, you can cut them, be aware there will be high tension on both belt.s the pulley will swing hard on the serp. belt. you could ruin the auto adjuster by cutting the belt.

 

Some shops replace the auto tensioner ( automatic adjuster ) only if it is leaking . The shop I spoke with told me a leaking automatic adjuster is extremely rare . However , if doing it DIY with all the $ we save on albor I guess that it is worth the extra $75 or in parts for peace or mind . After all the interval is pretty long ( 7 yrs / 105 k miles ) .

 

More on the auto tensioner. Definitely replace on a 2002, 2003 model .


https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/latest-tsb-timing-belt-tensioner-538217/

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/pilot/x03-064e.pdf

 

What about the crankshaft sensor? Should this also be replaced when doing the whole timing belt service?
Do crankshaft sensors have a certain life expectancy?

Also, I purchased the whole timing belt kit from the site mentioned above. The kit came with camshaft seals, and the crankshaft front main seal. Looks like all 3 of these seals are bone dry on the car, with no leaks. Does anybody do these seals when doing the timing belt?

 

The sensor isnt needed. Some take the time to replace them others dont. If they arent leaking im not sure that i would.

 

Will I need to replace the belt if my car only have 34k miles and its an 2002? Is there anyway to check?

 

The service schedule is based on miles or months. I think there's a place you can inspect the belt. Kris knows, no doubt.

 

Do the crankshaft sensors (for ATX) ever go bad? Is there a life expectancy for them?

 

...did I mention I love this site?? GREAT write up for sure.

Here is one that isn't anywhere on this thread:

What other items should I do or could I do while I have everything apart? Are there any OEM/aftermarket mods/upgrades/replacements that are really easy to do while I am digging into the water pump?

WTF is a battery tie down tool?! (I am not too mechanically inclined, but a little)

Is this kit what I need?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura...ht_4327wt_1093

Thanks already!

 

Hi all

I Bought a Used 2002 TL-S with 75K on it very cheap had all services done (checked by Notes) now im on 143 but i didnt notice that the Timing Belt service wasnt done. i have asked on the Forums about the Serial No. of the parts to buy them on Honda like i said before i dont have a Honda nor Acura dealer near me, the Honda dealer is 120 miles drive to the nearest. So i was going for PepBoys to do this service since i only saved up 850$ for this. PepBoys do it for 450$ with "Extended Warranty Timing Belt Procedure" for 1 year on everything they touch Timing Components Removal/Install wise so i dont see a problem in it? some say because they dont now how to Properly do it on Honda/Acuras. but im still exceptical this guys are ASE Certified Technicians how they dont now how to change a simple Timing Belt, Idler, Tensioner, WP, Belts?? but they will do an Engine Swap? asked...

Another thing the car came with this huge Supercharger do i need to buy special parts for it?? since what i saw the Alternator have some Dual pulley but i dont now if it uses the same OEM acc belt cuz havent replaced it since bought. the other part of the pulley uses a Tiny Belt for the Supercharger pulley do i have to replace it too?... another thing that thing needs to be serviced if so i hate it even more, Crazy windy sound and HUGE PITA to change Front Spark Plugs

 

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...catdisplay.jsp

You can get your OEM parts from there ^. They have good prices and fast shipping.

The dealer will probably charge around 1k-1200 total for this service. So you might be better off at Pepboys. Just tell them to give you a quote on labor. They should be able to handle it. Timing belt jobs aren't as hard as people make them out to be.

As for the supercharger, if you don't like it, you can make a pretty penny selling it in the Black Market. It'd pay for 2 or 3 timing belt service at the dealer!!

https://acurazine.com/forums/non-automotive-motorcycle-sales-9/

 

I Wouldnt even Now how to Start to get that thing off lol
besides the acceleration feeling is nice but i would like to be more wisper.

Hey!!!!!! can anyone tell me if something is wrong???? i uncover the Timing Belt little rubber cover where it shows the Timing Mark and it doesnt seem to be allign?? whats up? the pulley is even on the Empty Space of the pulley and the mark doesnt allign with nothing!! is there something wrong?

 

Can someone tell me which of the following parts are needed for a 2000 TL? It seems like there are two different tensioners, one is $60 the other $74:

LINK to parts list and diagram

I was going to get the following:
3, 4, 5, 6, 13

There are two parts numbered "six", 14510-PGE-AO1 and 14510-P8A-A01, which one is right, how can I tell which one I need?

Also do I need part #18?

 

You don't need 3 and 4, the cam pulleys.

Some people don't replace #18, and some do. You can read up on why people do or don't.

If I did it, I would replace it. Its $80 for peace of mind.

I don't know about #6 though.

 

When you are in there you might as well replace the water pump!I don't know if it's a common problem in our car, but I've personally fixed about 5 different Honda's where people skipped the 105k mile maintenance and the water pump bearings went, with no warning, and the pump seized up and that snapped the timing belt, which could potentially bend the valves!!

 

I agree. After doing mine, if you are replacing the timing belt, spend the extra little bit of change and replace the water pump!

 

Thanks yeah I was planning on replacing the water pump as well, just didnt mention it since it wasnt part of that diagram. Good to know I dont need to do #3 or #4, I just saw some people mentioning they replaced the pulleys...

What is #18 called?

Looks like Ill have to call the dealer on the #6 question... I figure each one is probably specific to certain 2000 TLs based on production date or location.

 

a good website to buy these parts is hondapartsunlimited.com

i recently bought my 1999 tl at 89xxx milege without a timing/water pump service... i purchased it from a friends brother. i know he does not drive the car hard and it's exceptionally a smooth ride. do you think i should wait until 95k-100k mark or suggest i change it soon? also, do you recommend changing the valve cover gasket/spark plug or vavle seals? i am going to purchase: upper+lower hose/water pump/thermostat/tensioner/pulley/tbelt-psbelt-and the other belt/valve cover gasket(is this needed?)....am i missing anything else?

thanks

 

I'd say do it soon. You're nearing 10 years on that belt...

And you don't need to replace valve cover gasket if you're not doing a valve adjustment.

Replace the spark plugs while you're at it.

 

Just a follow up for anyone wondering... the reason there are two #6 parts is they are different manufacturers but for all intents and purposes the same thing. Only one is needed, and one is $14 cheaper than the other.

 

I recently came across this posted by another ziner:

Read thru this - it's very helpful!

http://img32.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=001woz.jpg

 

my time is coming. nice pics

 

Guys,

I think ignorance is blessing. Many of you do not know that Acura and other manufacturers do not make their maintenance parts like belts, brake pads and even idlers for timing. They just stamp "Acura OEM" what was made for them by huge manufacturers that are cost effective vendors to Honda/Acura. Also some of aftermarket parts are much better than Honda/Acura OEM. Timing belt from Gates that makes performance belts will last longer than the one from Acura OEM parts department.

If you are on this subject then you should know that all performance departments outsource part production to companies like Mahle (e.g. pistons, rings, rods), Brembo e.t.c. because they do not have resources to build performnce parts. those parts are supposed to endure more, but are not always much more expensive.


BTW Acura timing kit parts are manufactured by AISIN (but not only!) which you will not know from Acura itself as they keep secret their business relationship with vendors. That's competitive edge.

Just get this:

http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ek+Google+Base


I know this facts as I played with minor fixing cars (also timing belts in Volkswagen and brakes on different cars) for last 15 years. No I am not mechanic, but I am engineer in different area and I spoke with quite a few people here and there who know those facts (call them insiders if you prefer).

 

The pics from the fist post dont work anymore ;/ Can anyone re-up them? Thanks!!!

 

Try to open them in separate window

 

One of the few who haven't been brainwashed into thinking "Acura dealer only" when it comes to buying parts.

 

yup. that does work

here are the pics, if you're lazy.
http://www.box.net/shared/r6xz1ihlj1