DENSO PLUGS
I see many of you have installed denso plugs. what are the benefits? how much do they cost. thanks
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00 tl silver, navi, factory kit, wing, comptech springs, exhaust,weapon R intake,18 in. enkei spider 1's, and a full system upgrade,alarm bulbs,inspire tailights, mugen grille & chrome cl type s wheels. More to come
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$84 plus shipping, through Tim. Not sure the benefits, just ordered them today.
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1999 Satin Silver Metallic 3.2 TL w/o Navigation
Denso Iridium Plugs on the way
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1999 Satin Silver Metallic 3.2 TL w/o Navigation
- 18x8 Racing Hart C2s with 225/40ZR18 Dunlop SP Sport 9000
- Comptech Springs, Sways, Exhaust, and Headers
- Red AEM CAI w/bypass valve
- A'PEXi Digital VTEC AFC
- Mugen Grill
- Inspire Tail Lights
- Factory Underbody Kit and Spoiler
- Clifford Intelliguard 9000 Alarm w/SmartWindows II
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Denso Iridium Plugs on the way
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Tim sent me this, someone sent to him
"mornin tim... don't have a lot of time to chat, but just wanted to let you
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
"mornin tim... don't have a lot of time to chat, but just wanted to let you
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
I see what you didn't like the halo plugs. you were buying the iridium plugs. Tim same me the same message after I try to cancel the order. For $84 + SH I would also talk good about them even if they don't improved anything.
I have also hear good things about them, but who knows for sure.
This is an e-mail I got from www.haloplug.com
Info from the engineer at factory.
Roger,
Iridium is a step up from platinum, in that it is a tougher, better wearing metal. I think the Iridium spark plugs are quite expensive however,and the technical stuff I've read on them doesn't really talk much aboutanything except their increased longevity. If they are gaining horsepower, it might be because of an increased gap, which increases the spark intensity. Our material is none of those mentioned, but a 95% nickel alloy that is the same as the sidewire on all other spark plugs (the iridium and platinum included). Because we fire off of a different point each time, there is no need for an exotic, more expensive and less conductive metal (such as
platinum) to improve the life of the plug. We do it by eliminating point firing, which is responsible for the gap degradation. The exotics only put a button or platinum or iridium on the firing surfaces, since it would be much too expensive to make the entire sidewire and center electrode out of the stuff. These metals are necessary to reduce wear when you fire from one point
all the time. Not a problem for us.
Hope this helps.
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I have also hear good things about them, but who knows for sure.
This is an e-mail I got from www.haloplug.com
Info from the engineer at factory.
Roger,
Iridium is a step up from platinum, in that it is a tougher, better wearing metal. I think the Iridium spark plugs are quite expensive however,and the technical stuff I've read on them doesn't really talk much aboutanything except their increased longevity. If they are gaining horsepower, it might be because of an increased gap, which increases the spark intensity. Our material is none of those mentioned, but a 95% nickel alloy that is the same as the sidewire on all other spark plugs (the iridium and platinum included). Because we fire off of a different point each time, there is no need for an exotic, more expensive and less conductive metal (such as
platinum) to improve the life of the plug. We do it by eliminating point firing, which is responsible for the gap degradation. The exotics only put a button or platinum or iridium on the firing surfaces, since it would be much too expensive to make the entire sidewire and center electrode out of the stuff. These metals are necessary to reduce wear when you fire from one point
all the time. Not a problem for us.
Hope this helps.
Originally posted by NSXNEXT:
Tim sent me this, someone sent to him
"mornin tim... don't have a lot of time to chat, but just wanted to let you
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
Tim sent me this, someone sent to him
"mornin tim... don't have a lot of time to chat, but just wanted to let you
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
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Here you could check for a picture and how it works.
http://www.iridiumsparkplugs.com/
Hope this helps too.
http://www.iridiumsparkplugs.com/
Hope this helps too.
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Originally posted by Bitium:
For $84 + SH I would also talk good about them even if they don't improved anything.
For $84 + SH I would also talk good about them even if they don't improved anything.
Here's a dyno someone did who had the Densos.
Did Halo provide you any dynos?
I'm not trying to bash you, just wondering if they'd back up their claims with some fact.
Originally posted by Bitium:
Plus the dyno only shows a maximun 3 horse power gain. No like other claims of 6 to 10 horses. Like 1999TL said that horsepower claim could come just from changing old plugs to new ones.
Plus the dyno only shows a maximun 3 horse power gain. No like other claims of 6 to 10 horses. Like 1999TL said that horsepower claim could come just from changing old plugs to new ones.
The dyno shows 3 hp gain at peak, not max gain of 3 hp. If you look at lower rpm's or hell nearly anywhere else, you'll see its around 4.
And take 4500 rpm even for example. The red line is at ~138 and the blue line is around ~145. That's a good enough gain for me at $80 some odd for the whole deal.
And if he did gain some from just changing out old spark plugs, its not like we WON'T gain that much either, we have old spark plugs as well!
And wtf are you all complaining about, Comptech Exhausts run upwards of $600, and don't even gain you as much.
What matters is what's under the curve, most of that gain is 4-5 hp but its throughout the entire band, not just 5000 and up! It would be the equivalent of something that gains twice as much horsepower, but for only the upper half of the powerband. Or four times as much power and in the top quarter of the powerband (sound like headers?)
BAH
!!! These plug$ are $hit in more ways than one
!!! Supersonix will blow those hoes out of tha water, just go ask your daughter
...
S.Hizolla
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!!! These plug$ are $hit in more ways than one
!!! Supersonix will blow those hoes out of tha water, just go ask your daughter
...S.Hizolla
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Originally posted by Shyne:
BAH
!!! These plug$ are $hit in more ways than one
!!! Supersonix will blow those hoes out of tha water, just go ask your daughter
BAH
!!! These plug$ are $hit in more ways than one
!!! Supersonix will blow those hoes out of tha water, just go ask your daughter
Hey Shyne, two words...PROVE IT!!
Get off you a$$ and dyno your car with your magical sparks and with the stocks.
Then maybe you'll actually have some ground to stand on. Until then, read the dyno my friend.
"My car goes vrooom...vrooom" is not my idea of quantifiable proof.
Believe me, if you can prove that yours provide better performance, I'll be the first to shake your hand.
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- A'PEXi Digital VTEC AFC
- Mugen Grill
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"mornin tim... don't have a lot of time to chat, but just wanted to let you
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
I sent that to Tim the day after the plugs were installed in my car... and although I don't have dynos to prove it, I can only tell you that I felt the difference, and for the money I spent, it was probable the best upgrade.
that thos spark plugs are something else.... :-)
i'm chirping my tires between 1st and 2nd now pretty consistently
the only time I was able to do that is when I test-drove the CL Type S"
I sent that to Tim the day after the plugs were installed in my car... and although I don't have dynos to prove it, I can only tell you that I felt the difference, and for the money I spent, it was probable the best upgrade.
That's true on what he said. Plus the horse power comes from a bigger explosion which I guess it comes from the denso U shape spark plug not the material. Now thanks to the material they could make the tip smaller which I guess would also help make a bigger explosion. Plus the dyno only shows a maximun 3 horse power gain. No like other claims of 6 to 10 horses. Like 1999TL said that horsepower claim could come just from changing old plugs to new ones.
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Originally posted by 1999TL:
The dyno didn't work...but if it's the dyno I'm thinking of...It's a biased dyno...dynoing old plugs with a set of new ones....
The dyno didn't work...but if it's the dyno I'm thinking of...It's a biased dyno...dynoing old plugs with a set of new ones....
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NSX, your power is not only coming from your sparks, itz from your exhaust headers etc... I dont have either of these, and I wont spend money just to prove my point... The supersonix are more bang for tha buck, that's all im sayin... I guarantee that your engine will be exploding w/horse power once you install a set of these in your car... Ask, Merlyn, he ordered a set for his ryde, and he will tell you that they are the $hit also!
S.Holla
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S.Holla
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