Dealer installed '04 tranny in '03 TL

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Old 11-11-2004, 02:22 AM
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Dealer installed '04 tranny in '03 TL

I rec'd a message from my friend (whose 71,000 mile '03 TL tranny died 2 weeks ago) saying that she got her car back today w/ the new tranny - along w/ a letter detailing her about them installing an '04 TL tranny in her '03... She may have missunderstood the letter, and I didn't get to talk directly to her to ask questions - so I'll find out more later. She also mentioned that she no longer feels the engine shift (she always did b4 - even when it was brand new) - it's extremely smooth now.

I left her a message to fax me the letter. As soon as I know more, I'll let you all know... this could be great news!!
Old 11-11-2004, 02:48 AM
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Definitely keep us updated!
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i am thrilled to see that if that happens
Old 11-11-2004, 03:08 AM
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Hmmm, the 3rd Gen transmission has a completely different shift gate. It also doesn't have the 1 & 2, 3 levers. I'm interested in this as well.
Old 11-11-2004, 04:57 AM
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Not to sound like a party pooper but we all know how well knowledgeable girls are when it comes to cars. I highly doubt that a dealer would install the 04 tranny into a 03 TL. If that was the case, then I would've ask for a 04 tranny too when my 99 TL tranny took a crap.
Old 11-11-2004, 10:23 AM
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hmm.... I dont know about that, but if the dealer wanted to, they could install an 04 tranny in my 99... and if they feel so inclined, they could also do an engine swap for me too!!!
Old 11-11-2004, 03:53 PM
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Don't see how that would work. The PCM is totally different on the '04 than in the '03 due to the drive-by-wire throttle system in the '04 that interupts the throttle during shifts to reduce wear.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Don't see how that would work. The PCM is totally different on the '04 than in the '03 due to the drive-by-wire throttle system in the '04 that interupts the throttle during shifts to reduce wear.
Good point. While both are J series engines, nearly everything after that has been redone in some way. So it would be more than just a tranny swap.
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no it wouldnt ...the tranny doesnt know or care the new Tl is DBW ...the old tl ecu would run it just fine...im not sayin theyve put it in just saying it would work...also the shift gate would make a dif either
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Originally Posted by typeR
no it wouldnt ...the tranny doesnt know or care the new Tl is DBW ...the old tl ecu would run it just fine...im not sayin theyve put it in just saying it would work...also the shift gate would make a dif either
ya really! everyone know they're the same tranny anyways. Whats the big deal?
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Hey PhxAcura, Can you confirm whether this was an '04 tranny into an '03 ???

What's the word? This would be very useful information for many of us.
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Ok, finally rec'd the letter the Acura dealer left my friend. It says nothing about an '04 transmission. She said the dealer verbally said something about it. Of course, she knows nothing about cars, so I'll take her word for what it's worth. Nonetheless, here's the letter:

"The transmission that has been installed in your car has been redesigned and recalibrated for longer life.

Also, the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) that controls engine management and transmission shift points has been updated.

The fuel pressure regulator may have been replaced, depending on the year and model of your car. The new regulator has been recalibrated to work with the PCM.
The changes that have been made will affect the way the transmission shifts.

Most changes will be transparent, but you may notice some differences. Some of these differences will minimize as the PCM maps your driving habits and tailors itself to your driving style.

The Acura division of American Honda has made these changes to insure the dependability of your transmission and to bolster your confidence in your Acura automobile for the years to come.

Should you have any further questions please feel free to contact your Service Advisor."

The changes she's noticed:
1. Faster and much, much smoother shift change
2. Slow start from a stop (she says it feels like the car has a hard time between 0 and 1 mph (?))
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did she go to Acura of N. Scottsdale?
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Originally Posted by PhxAcura
The changes that have been made will affect the way the transmission shifts.

Most changes will be transparent, but you may notice some differences.
I sure do agree with that. My replacement transmission doesn't shift anything like my original tranmission to the point it doesn't seem like the same car.

Now when I accelerate full throttle, there is a major pause between gears. The origional tranny was very smooth. The replacement sux.

What's interesting is my results are just the opposite of the results your friend is getting.

I guess it just depends on the luck of how good the tranny is that you happen to get.

Stupid ACURA. #%$#$@!!!
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David McDavid Acura in Plano...

They're a great dealership in the Dallas area.
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lol David Mcdavid...
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haha might as well name your kid john johnson
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lol...damn. Hey Congrats to your friend with the new tranny.
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