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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:24 AM
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Crashed tonight :-(

Hey all,

well it happened :-(

it's not terrible, I will fix it, but it's going to cost me...driving home from the Siena Men's Bball game, have a big turn, slowed down to take it. the brakes locked, the car went straight and I hit a street sign.

Luckily, the damage wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. So I don't have a front bumper anymore, and my passenger headlight is cracked (but it works weirdly enough) otherwise the engine is fine.

so yeah, merry christmas all
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:31 AM
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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Glad no one was hurt. Did ABS/TCS go off?
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:52 AM
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the brakes locked???? realllly? Did you hit oil or what--
ABS should have worked IF you had your foot buried on the brakes--otherwise you are on your own
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:53 AM
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TCS traction control, only works below 16mph 25kph
Its to assist on icy road starts
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
TCS traction control, only works below 16mph 25kph
Its to assist on icy road starts
Thanks for the info. I thought the traction control system would assist with higher speed cornering as well, if the driver was not able to react quickly enough to wheel spin.

Whenever I launch from a stop on completely dry road, my TCS light goes off. Is this normal?
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Karanx7
Thanks for the info. I thought the traction control system would assist with higher speed cornering as well, if the driver was not able to react quickly enough to wheel spin.

Whenever I launch from a stop on completely dry road, my TCS light goes off. Is this normal?
TCS only prevents wheel spin, it does not do independent braking to readjust your intended direction. That would be VSA's job.

And yes, that is normal if you're doing a hard launch and perhaps have crappy tires or you're flooring it.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
TCS only prevents wheel spin, it does not do independent braking to readjust your intended direction. That would be VSA's job.

And yes, that is normal if you're doing a hard launch and perhaps have crappy tires or you're flooring it.
VSA? Violin Society of America?

Depending on the car, TCS can reduce fuel supply, retard spark to a cylinder, or even brake one or more wheels. According to Wiki, at least. Also, I'm using Goodyear Eagle GT tires. Best performance tires I could get, according to Tire Rack. The TCS light bothers me when I floor it, as I hear/feel it only affecting the front right tire. This leads me to believe that there is uneven torque being delivered to the right and left wheel, which is not optimal when driving straight. Do you know if our cars apply TCS via brake, throttle cut, or both? Either way, thanks for the info.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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TCS in your car is done through braking only.

VSA = Vehicle Stability Assist which does independently brake each wheel to reduce understeer or oversteer.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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sorry

might want to check out the ABS while getting everything fixed. was it icy? last night was cold as fawk.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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good thing ur ok @ least you can drive your M5 now
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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sorry man
hate to hear that especially so close to christmas
but hey as long as no one was hurt
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Things could always be worse. Be thankful you/no one else was hurt.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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good thing ur ok @ least you can drive your X5 now

fixed.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Hey all, just for clarification my abs and tcs were on the fritz, check out my older threads. I qasactually going to drop it off at the mechanics today before I left for the holidays.
I'll be back the 27th, the car isn't as bad as it could have been. Yeah its missing a front bumper and the passenger headlight is out, but I was planning on installing my cleared lights so I'm not out too much cash on that

The mechanic will have to tell me if anything else is wrong and obviously the abs has to be fixed (wheel speed sensor)

I'm optimistic even though I'm stuck in the airport!

And yeah I was going about 40/45 and it was cold and there was a bit of ice. That and I should have known better a car totalled on that curve the other day at least the to moved on its own power and had zero engine damage, purely cosmetic based on how it drove home.

So if anyone in ny can get me a good deal on a front bumper, you know someone who is interested =)
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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^Yeah I'll drive the x5 haha
But that's such a sorry excuse of an SUV I doubt that would have done any better
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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oops meant X5 LOL not M5
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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whoaaa glad ur ok man!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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ahhh the ol driving in the ice with ABS broken,,that'll cut your day short!!

ck tire pressure for launch issues- and stop drag racing the TL on the street~

TCS rapidly applies brake on and off to the faster spinning wheel until it matches other wheel speed -based on sensor readings
Dash light comes on when its active
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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later years gen2 got a fancier traction control system and what all it does at different speeds,,
gen3 got even more car control over driver abilty factor
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Talk about bad timing.

But yeah you did get lucky, it could've been a lot worse. At least you won't be out too long
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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^thanks man, yeah not too long. i can theoretically drive it as it is, but that would be dumb. lol

I have to find a cheap bumper that's in good condition that I can sand down and repaint it NBP.

and i'll install the new headlights.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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At least it will force you to install your blacked out headlights now.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 05:18 AM
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I have a NBP front bumper with a little bit of damage on it, you interested? I'm gonna have to ship it out to you though since you're in NY.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 06:24 AM
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dang what a bad thing to have happened around this time of the year. at least you weren't injured, thats always a good thing.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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^n1njai, what type of damage? my bumper has some paint scrapes.

I'm going to be painting it so if it is superficial scratches (not deep) then I guess it could theoretically work
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Sorry to hear about that, hope it gets fixed soon though
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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That's a shame man, at least it was a minor crash and not your tranny giving out! That would certainly be a worse Christmas "present". Hopefully you can sort this out soon and have your car looking good again. Hey at least it's winter so it doesn't matter if your ride is looking mint or not. Well at least in stormy areas like mine. I try to keep it "clean" but that's a different type of clean in the winter.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by V_Langs_3.2TL
^n1njai, what type of damage? my bumper has some paint scrapes.

I'm going to be painting it so if it is superficial scratches (not deep) then I guess it could theoretically work
Like someone scuffed the car against a fence, it's not that noticeable, I'll try and get pics up after xmas.The scratches are not deep at all.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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sorry to hear that, glad your ok and that the V only needs minor cosmetic surgery. the car not doing what you ask it is a terrible feeling, especially in situations such as these
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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^thanks man,

yeah I'll survive haha. but I do need to get the abs fixed ASAP. I'm looking at around 3-400$ in repairs
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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I feel your pain, I almost beat someone A$$ when my car was hit.
I ran into target to get a few things came out and my car was hit in the rear and no one was there or saw it...

I have to replace my bumber and trunk lid. lucky no frame damage happened but I just received my $1900 check from my insurance to day and a buddy of mine who owns an Acura dismantle shop is doing the entire job for 600! GOT SOME SPENDING MONEY FOR MY CAR lol
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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hey ya'll on that diagram, can someone show me what number just the front glass covering is? I'm installing my new lights but if I can fix this old pair too then that'd be great. the entire light is a ok just the front glass is shattered
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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you can only buy the housing..#1....and its plastic.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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ok! thanks! and what does that include? is it the entire plastic cover? I can't really tell from the diagram what it is actually covering
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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its just the housing..you put your ballast and bulbs in from broken headlamps and bolt on.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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thanks man, appreciate it

I guess I won't be buying it haha, no need to spend an extra 200 just so it sits in my garage
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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As Promised....The Pictures









And what she's supposed to look like:


So like I said, not too bad. it's gonna cost around $400 to get her back in shape. but I love the car too much to not do it.

First accident btw. 10 years strong
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