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Man, that has to be the strangest-looking supercharger i have ever seen. Whats that long pole-like extension at the front of the engine. I assume its what turns the SC, but im no mechanic, so i could be wrong. Is it really gonna cost 6 grand. There is so much more that i would do to my car if i had $6000 to spend (wheels, headers, exhaust, intake, stereo, etc, etc...).
Just not worth it IMHO

 

p.s. I assume the cost of an upgraded tranny was included in the est. price. If not,

 

OMG!!!!

 

Its a roots type supercharger and because of that they had to move a lot of stuff around. Its gonna cost a lot becaues of all the additonal things needed besides the S/C plus the moving of a lotta stock components. Looks sweet though...

 

I like the way it looks but the engine looks kinda seperated on the right side. My primitive diagram shows what I would want it too look like. If they somehow connected what I drew in yellow it would make the engine bay flow better .

 

I was not expecting it to look as good as it does...but still for around 7-10K including all the labors, parts, tranny rebuild, etc...etc...I'd rather put that money into a new M3, M5 or even new house...sorry but not for me...

 

hmm, after looking at these pics, i have two questions. Is the SC placed over the battery?? if so, wouldnt you have to remove the SC in order to replace the battery?? Also, what effect would this have on ppl with systems in their car. would u still be able to fit all the power wires for amps on the battery terminals??

 

What are the advantages of a Roots Type Supercharger? Centrifugal (sp?) Type? Do they affect the potential life of the car? and finally...WHERE AND WHEN can I have this bad boy installed? ! ?

Burt

 

I totally agree... if the supercharger is going to be around $6k alone, plus everything you listed above, I think you're looking at closer to $10k..... no thank you. I'd also like to add the S4 to your list of alternative ways to spend the $$$

 

That long tube across the front of the engine is the shaft (inside a housing) that drives the blower. An SC pulls power from the crankshaft pulley which is on the passenger side and then needs to force air into the intake on the driver's side.

The battery sure is buried under that blower. Yes, it looks like you would literally have to remove the unit to get to the battery. As far as connecting to it, that would be a pain in the shorts.

That black box in the corner must be the icebox/air cleaner housing.

That is one cool setup. Way out of my budget, though. Sure is one CLEAN installation. Looks like it belongs there.

Again, totally awesome.

 

The advantage is that you'll never have colon cancer once you purchase it, you won't have one left.

I have a mod that will give you 400 HP and I'll only charge $85,000. After this mod your car will look alot like a BMW M5...
And if you order now you'll get a special price on some ocean front property in idaho ...

LAME!

 

the battery has been relocated to the trunk I believe....

 

The battery is in the same place, they just replaced it with a smaller one.

 

Yup!
You can see it if you look at the third pic that bdimc2001 attached.

KH

 

Roots style is very linear, providing constant power through out
the band. Not very high end oriented, so you don't get the gains
of a turbo or a centrifugal. But, you get awesome trottle
response and the best low end gain out of any forced induction.

The reliability is also much better than a turbo system, because
there is no spikes in boost and usually boost levels are very
conservative. Average gain is 40%-50%.

 

"Also, what effect would this have on ppl with systems in their car. would u still be able to fit all the power wires for amps on the battery terminals?? "

I dunno what system you're running...but my system uses triple stranded 2 gauge wire and I seriously doubt you'd have trouble running it. Remember, you only have to run + wires, you ground the rest...

 

Figure 40 hp peak hp at the wheels, your dyno might look like this.

 

Nice try, but the dyno would look nothing like that. For one, the torque and horsepower curves always cross at 5250 rpms. You can't just take the old curves and move them higher up the chart like you've done here.

If you want a more reasonable estimate, take the torque curve you have (although the gains will probably not be as linear as you have shown here) and then calculate the horsepower at key points, say every 250 RPMs. Then you should be able to plot a nice curve. Of course, it is still just a WAG.

 

Ack, you're right. I did the calculation to get the torque to be at the right level at peak hp, forgot to cross em though.

 

$6000 I just don't see the point Take our cars for what they are; a front wheel drive sports sedan that we may modify here and there if you wanted to so you can improve it for what it is. A nice, quick comfortable 4 door sedan(or 2dr), not a dragster. I for one will not go out on a mission to create a quarter mile monster using a front wheel drive sedan as a basis.
Yeah anything is possible with money but it's not for me. If I spent $6000 grand on a S.C. better yet a Incon twin turbo setup on me Stang, it would reap far more HP than this application. And I would still have a little $'s left to buy some more mods. $6000 for what 50-70+ HP. If you think it's worth the $$'s then go for it, I would still like it and appreciate it.

Ahhh well, as the old adage goes. Speed cost's money! And yes I'm sure some of will be getting this for your car. Good for you, cause the hobby we all love just sucks money right up no matter what you drive and modify

Have fun

 

How much boost are they running and is this a bone stock TLS engine except for external bolt on mods?

 

I think it's external bolt on's only, but the Type-S is running 10.5:1 compression already, right? Not my idea of a motor for forced induction.

 

Not an idea ratio by any means, must be running a low 5-7psi of boost...

 

My guess is 4 psi and maybe an option for a 6 psi pulley.