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Old 11-21-2004, 10:32 AM
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Cheap Headers?

i have a question as i am not too car savvy just yet...
with all these cheaper alternatives to Comptech headers that are out now, and especially these even cheaper Megan headers that i had just been aware of.
can they have a Negative effect on the car?? besides bad welds and leaking, can the headers cause permanent damage to my engine or anything?
any insight is appreciated. thanks!
Old 11-21-2004, 12:19 PM
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no, not at all...the headers are not mechanical at all. As long as you can hook in your O2 sensor (all of them allow this), your engine will run normally, just be able to breathe out exhaust much better.
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Originally Posted by big mike 13
i have a question as i am not too car savvy just yet...
with all these cheaper alternatives to Comptech headers that are out now, and especially these even cheaper Megan headers that i had just been aware of.
can they have a Negative effect on the car?? besides bad welds and leaking, can the headers cause permanent damage to my engine or anything?
any insight is appreciated. thanks!
well, there is a groupbuy going on in the CL forum.. Its on the alphawerks headers.. check that out.. under blackmarket , group buys.. I heard good feedback on the alpahwerks better fitment than obx. and better welding too..
Old 11-21-2004, 01:34 PM
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sso if i happen to buy a Faulty header, and it starts leaking, what will it do to my car technically?? would it be able to drive and just a simple swap for a new one and it will work fine again?? thanks a lot guys.
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like I said, it wont do anything to your engine if you headers leak. All it will do in get on your nerves because you will hear the "tick" noise from the exhaust gas when you accelerate.
Old 11-21-2004, 02:24 PM
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If headers leak, you will lose torque and thats about it. Theres a megan groupbuy going on on another forum. Its a great deal. I have these megans headers and they are great. Perfect fit and looksnice.
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I'm in on the groupbuy.. I'll let you guys know how the headers work out for me...$175 shipped! Can't beat it
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Originally Posted by PenguinQX
I'm in on the groupbuy.. I'll let you guys know how the headers work out for me...$175 shipped! Can't beat it
these headers are for the TL-S?

pretty cheap price how does these compare to the OBX headers.. quality, fitment, gains?
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link to the megan groupbuy please.
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Originally Posted by TL260power
these headers are for the TL-S?

pretty cheap price how does these compare to the OBX headers.. quality, fitment, gains?
any header will fit the '99-'03 TLP or Type S. Only the CLS 6 speed is different.
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Originally Posted by ou sig
any header will fit the '99-'03 TLP or Type S. Only the CLS 6 speed is different.
Correct.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=43828
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Can someone PLEASE post a link to the Megan headers groupbuy. Thanks!!
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megan headers groupbuy

i went ahead and ordered the megan headers too through the group buy.

seems like the price is really good. i would have considered the alpha works headers, but their price is now over 2 times what it was just earlier this year.

hope that the megan headers dont give me any problems cause $175 is still, well.... $175.00. Im told that install is going to be $120.00, but now im hoping to get it done for around $80.00

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Wtf?.........post The Link!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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^^^ check 3 posts up by Penguin... he posted the link.
yeah im considering buying those headers, but since my dad bought me the car and told me not to put headers on, im scared of what can happen with these in particular since noone has stood up for their quality and longevity..
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What's the old saying....Oh yeah, you get what you pay for....Oh and another...penny wise and pound foolish...

The reason the Comptechs are so expensive are:

1 - Design - Comptech spent all the money to come up with the design and everyone else copied it (good for everyone else)
2 - Quality - the "other" guys use cheap labor to MIG, rather than TIG weld the headers. Poor quality welds are a typically result.


Consider the costs:

1 - Initial purchase
2 - Initial install (ok so maybe you're gonna install them yourself...isn't that worth anything?)

Ok, so now say you find a leak. Whatcha gonna do? OBX and the others won't warrant them, so you're fvcked. Gotta pay to get a new set, pay to have the old removed/new installed + your time and headaches.

I realize the Comptechs are a mint, but why deal with all the potential problems?
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
What's the old saying....Oh yeah, you get what you pay for....Oh and another...penny wise and pound foolish...

The reason the Comptechs are so expensive are:

1 - Design - Comptech spent all the money to come up with the design and everyone else copied it (good for everyone else)
2 - Quality - the "other" guys use cheap labor to MIG, rather than TIG weld the headers. Poor quality welds are a typically result.


Consider the costs:

1 - Initial purchase
2 - Initial install (ok so maybe you're gonna install them yourself...isn't that worth anything?)

Ok, so now say you find a leak. Whatcha gonna do? OBX and the others won't warrant them, so you're fvcked. Gotta pay to get a new set, pay to have the old removed/new installed + your time and headaches.

I realize the Comptechs are a mint, but why deal with all the potential problems?
$175 SHIPPED THATS WHY! If they turn out to be crap, I'll yank em and get the stock ones put back on.
Old 11-22-2004, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
What's the old saying....Oh yeah, you get what you pay for....Oh and another...penny wise and pound foolish...

The reason the Comptechs are so expensive are:

1 - Design - Comptech spent all the money to come up with the design and everyone else copied it (good for everyone else)
2 - Quality - the "other" guys use cheap labor to MIG, rather than TIG weld the headers. Poor quality welds are a typically result.


Consider the costs:

1 - Initial purchase
2 - Initial install (ok so maybe you're gonna install them yourself...isn't that worth anything?)

Ok, so now say you find a leak. Whatcha gonna do? OBX and the others won't warrant them, so you're fvcked. Gotta pay to get a new set, pay to have the old removed/new installed + your time and headaches.

I realize the Comptechs are a mint, but why deal with all the potential problems?

because that little time it takes me to put them on and off is not worth 1200 like comptechs are. I would have to go through 6 pairs of megan ss headers to eqaul one comptech header. Am I really going to go through 6 pairs, very unlikely, I doubt i will keep my car longer then a year and half from now, and most probablys are usually after 6 months to a year. Unless your gonna keep ur car until it dies then comptech might be worth it, but who on this board will do that? very small amount.

all i gotta say is 1200 is more then ridiclous for headers.
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Just ordered from group buy on v6performance. Today is last day for it.
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+ i heard theres a warranty for these??

i had a question about "smog legal"
i read that these arent which im assuming it doesnt pass inspection bc of emissions?? is this a big thing?
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warranty is 1 year. Dunno where you heard they're not smog legal, but these are very smog legal.
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so are the megan headers good? i mean i know 175 is pretty cheap.. I am planning on keeping my car for the next 5 years and i dont have money like that to be uninstalling if something went wrong. How long have these headers been in the market?

thanks if anybody can respond
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Originally Posted by big mike 13
+ i heard theres a warranty for these??

i had a question about "smog legal"
i read that these arent which im assuming it doesnt pass inspection bc of emissions?? is this a big thing?
Actually you are right...half way. The only headers that are certified smog legal are the Comptechs. You will pass the emissions test with any of the headers according to the computer, but some states (California) may not pass you visually because the Smog certification is not on the header itself, physically.
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well im in NY...
it says on Megan's site that it isnt CARB certified? is this the same thing?
crapppppp, anyone in NYC can loan me paypal? my paypal is past sending limit and i want these....
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If you want to do this once, get the Comptechs. If you accept the possiblity of replacing them once, twice or more, the get one of the cheaper makes.
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If you want to do this once, get the Comptechs. If you accept the possiblity of replacing them once, twice or more, the get one of the cheaper makes.
that isnt ture either. There are plenty of people that have had OBX for well over 1 year. My Stone headers are nearly that old and I havent had 1 problem at all. The whole point it you can spend 1/6th the Comptech price.
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You can also go the middle of the road and go with the Alpha Werks. Their quality and fitment has been established already. They have a 1-year warranty and they are right smack dab in the middle in terms of price.

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Originally Posted by ou sig
that isnt ture either. There are plenty of people that have had OBX for well over 1 year. My Stone headers are nearly that old and I havent had 1 problem at all. The whole point it you can spend 1/6th the Comptech price.
Yes it is true. I said possibility. You cannot deny that OBX, Stone and others makes have had more problems with fit, durability, and manufactuer support than Comptech. I've had my CT's for three years come February. Now, I plan on keeping this car a long time (7-8 years more) so it was worth it to me. Also, I'm in California so CT's CARB exemption was critical. If you are keeping it a couple years, I'd agree that OBX and the others are a good move.
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