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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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Car and Driver DOES make mistakes!!!

I just recieved my november issue of car and driver, the one with the new viper and sl55 amg on the cover. Interesting thing I noted here is in the road test digest. Our beloved TL-S seem to be slowing down, drastically. They wrote 0-60 in 7.6!!!! And a quarter mile of 16 seconds. Doesnt the TL-P perform better than those numbers???
Oh well, just goes to show you that these car magazines do make errors.
By the way, what is the regular claim that car and driver makes on 0-60 times for the TL-S?
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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car and driver is wack. if those numbers are right then, i must be crazy because instead of getting a tls i should of gotten a kia sephia.:smokin:

those white boys need to get thier facts straight and stop making our import cars numbers slower and stop making domestics numbers faster. did you see the gm's and chevorlets cars to compete with the import scene? cavalir and sunfire. hahah those are the most ugliest things i have ever seen.:yack:
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by asloudasitgets
car and driver is wack. if those numbers are right then, i must be crazy because instead of getting a tls i should of gotten a kia sephia.:smokin:

Car & Driver doesn't usually f#ck things up that badly; but in a follow-up answer to a letter pointing out the incorrect 0-60 time, the stock answer was "that cars vary" or some bullsh!t like that. A few tenths, SURE; but more than a second--c'mon, save the crack pipe for after the test! Geez...
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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oh...
this may not be a mistake...but tested high attitude or sth like that...that is possible...

once they tested the A6 4.2...should be kick ass rite?? but it got 8 secs...y??? coz they tested the car at 5000ft...
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:43 AM
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correct me if im wrong, but doesnt a stock accord v6 perform the 0-60 times that this issue is claiming in the mag.
also, dont criticize car and driver that quickly, i am pretty sure it is just an error of information given to the typers, or the people who typed it up misread it.
so what is an honest real world 0-60 for the tl-s stock???
my estimate is anywhere from 6.3 to 6.6
anyone care to share their opinion or actual track experience?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:18 AM
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i checked a much older issue by the way, and it claimed 0-60 in 6.2 sec. that high altitude deal should of been mathematically adjusted to ideal conditions. they even explain that in the new edition.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by power3dfx
i checked a much older issue by the way, and it claimed 0-60 in 6.2 sec. that high altitude deal should of been mathematically adjusted to ideal conditions. they even explain that in the new edition.
Maybe it was one of them future "bad tranny" Acuras?! :devil:
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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If anyone read the whole article this was not an error in typing. The 330 and all the other cars were slower than normal as well. Probably due to temp., humidity, elevation, etc.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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They are whack then..I don't know about all that..but who knows..that is what they ran..not what I'm running:devil: :flamer:
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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Our cars run 0-60 in 6.2 and the 1/4 in 14.7, I think those numbers are widely accepted as the average. In runs at E-Town those numbers were supported. In that article all of the cars tested were very slow.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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maybe he had it in ss and forgot to shift out of second?

hahahahahahaha
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:28 AM
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Our cars run 0-60 in 6.2 and the 1/4 in 14.7, I think those numbers are widely accepted as the average. In runs at E-Town those numbers were supported. In that article all of the cars tested were very slow.
Average....are you serious? Lay off the pipe man. Go take 10 runs at any dragstrip that is a downhill and average them. If you are in the 14's with a stock TLS I will be impressed. I wouldn't call those numbers average by any means.


If anyone read the whole article this was not an error in typing. The 330 and all the other cars were slower than normal as well. Probably due to temp., humidity, elevation, etc.
exactly...this is a relative comparison. take it for what it's worth. Why are people so carried away with numbers like 0-60? quarter mile time and trap speed tell more. So what does it say when you win to sixy, the see tail lights from 60 to 120? Are you going to shut down at 60 and flash your hazards and pretend you won? Some cars don't even hit 60 in second gear so it's more of a gearing advantage than anything else. I think times like 30-70 or 20-80 (like pulling onto a highway) are more usefull real world numbers than 0-60.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ray_Khan
exactly...this is a relative comparison. take it for what it's worth. Why are people so carried away with numbers like 0-60? quarter mile time and trap speed tell more. So what does it say when you win to sixy, the see tail lights from 60 to 120? Are you going to shut down at 60 and flash your hazards and pretend you won? Some cars don't even hit 60 in second gear so it's more of a gearing advantage than anything else. I think times like 30-70 or 20-80 (like pulling onto a highway) are more usefull real world numbers than 0-60. [/B]
Good point, and a faster 0-60 time doesn't always result in a faster car overall.

I remember sometime long ago, one of the car rags used to test time to distance. But now they only do that for the 1/4mile.

The point here is that time to speed and distance are different. Just look at the 1/4 mile results of several cars.

Some will post a higher 1/4 speed, but have a slower time.

So does a faster 0-60 time really mean you are faster? Not necessarily.

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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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FUC$ Car & Driver. Motor Trend all the way.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by franka624
Our cars run 0-60 in 6.2 and the 1/4 in 14.7, I think those numbers are widely accepted as the average. In runs at E-Town those numbers were supported. In that article all of the cars tested were very slow.
Those numbers are in no way the average. they are more like the very good end of the numbers but no way are they average. Average should be around 6.8 and low 15's. I mean we all love our cars and want it to have good numbers but let's not get carried away..
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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I'm glad you guys called BS on the stock times for our car..... usually when someone posts something like people try to argue to make it possible

The average 0-60 is 6.3-6.6... somewhere in that range. Acura themselves claim 6.3.

1/4 mile time should be in the low 15's. The 6speed CL-S runs 14.7 stock.. not our cars. With headers and an intake you'd be in the 14's... but not stock. There are some exceptions as I have seen some cars hit 14.9.... but to average it I'd say 15.1-15.4 or so.....
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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Hey juniorbean, did you ever get that trunk mod?
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