At 12,500 miles I took my car in for a few squeaks here and there...also mentioned that my car's brakes was fading and pulsing pretty bad at higher speed(due to warped rotors..don't know how)...I got buddy-buddy with the manager(no, not like that!), and he had the rotors and pads changed for me No charge...anyways, I'm getting to 17,000 miles, and at speeds of 75+, the wheel shakes very very very little when driving, but when I lightly press on the brakes, the wheel shakes like crazy...I doubt it needs a high speed balance, but I will probably get one anyway... When the rotors were changed(at 12,500), after about a month or so, I installed AEM pads up front...could the caliper be sticking and prematurely wearing the pad to cause the shaking? I gotta check it out... I can't imagine the rotor is warped again after such a short period of time, thats my only conclusion I came to....anyone else?
Ed

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Ed,

Takes the wheels off of each side.. and then examine the pads... if one side is worn more then one side is probably sticking...

The vibration while braking seems to indicate a warped rotor issue. I'd also put your stock pads back on before visiting the dealer again.. just in case...

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My brakes are completely stock.... I went in for warped rotors around 20k miles. The dealership took care of them for free. I have to wonder if there's some underlying problem that caused this. It seems pretty odd for them to do $150+ worth of labor for free. I doubt they're just trying to be nice guys. ;-)

 

Did they replace the wheel bearings also???

 

I'm not sure what they did..
Ed

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Pics of my TL
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i doubt they replaced the wheel bearings, no need to.

 

the wheel shaking happens to me all the time. I hate it!

 

I'm starting to get that shake at high speeds, and when braking. I think it's time to get tim's slotted front rotors! But i have to other mods i must tend to first!

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At about 2K I noticed that my rear rotors are a ever so slightly blue and have tiny scores in them, not serious, but not normal either. My front ones look fine. No problems with shimmy or anything of that nature

I wonder if Acura has problems with pad quality or heat dispersion of their rotors? Gotta take mine into the dealer and see what they say.

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both my Accord and the TL seem to warp their brakes easily. I had the accord turned twice by 12,000 bumper to bumper warranty expiration. The TL was doing it but it seems to have stopped. I have also made sure not to drive home and then wash the car and I've had less problems in the last 7 months since I started doing it. And I'm attempting to stop doing late braking which I do non-stop in the accord and constantly have rotor problems. I think they are just barely adequate for "proper" driving behavior, but knowing us on this board, it's drive fast and brake fast and hose it down with water which fries them.

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Ed, at 15K my rotors were "shaved" by Acura cuz my car would shake so bad anytime I'd brake. My car is getting like that again and I told Acura I wanted the rotors replace and not shaved again. We'll see what happens.

 

I went in as well because braking at 45+ the wheel would shake along with the rest of the car...and god forbid I brake at 75+ its even worse. When I brought the car in they did the same thing with the rotors and told me it was from hard braking (which i don't do, unless forced to). And he said he would only do this once and never again. But it is still bad and I definately believe there are underlying problems with the braking system.

 

i had the same problem. however, they said it was because i was driving the car too hard and there was nothing they could do. now my car is off warantee and it is still getting worse. guess i should just get the cross drilled rotors. the shaking at high speed is just so annoying.

 

That's what they end up usually saying.. Unfortunately, that's what is causing it, hard and last second braking, as well as making a hot rotor cold from cold water in a car wash etcetc... I never had any problems with any other cars that I have had, I don't know what kind of rotor's they use, But I would try an aftermarket(even though the Acura rotor isn't really made by them) rotor and see if it makes a difference..
Ed

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Pics of my TL
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Shoofin, I have same kind of problem as you have. Now, woth almost 13k miles on my TL, my front breaks act somewhat shady... they cause my ride to vibrate jently, for now I hope, while I brake going 45 mph or more. I will ask my dealer what's yp with the vibration when I will go for my inspection, which I plan to do around 15k. I let you guys know what they tell me. Ohh yeah, almost forgot, when I had my '91 940 Turbo, no matter how much I was kicking living crap out of my breaks, they never vibrate.

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It could be that the brakes are too small for a car of that weight and hp. From all the articles I've read in my car research and my test drives of the tl, it seems one of the few areas the tl is lacking is in the brake dept. It would have been a good idea for acura to upgrade to larger brakes for 02.. and i would certainly hope for better brakes on the tl-S w/ 260 hp.
I do not think cross-drilled rotors would help much. Does OEM or someone sell larger rotors?

- Nick, shopping for an '01 or '02

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i just got off of the phone with my service rep about bringing my car in to have the brakes and rotors checked do to vibrating when stopping. The service rep is tryin to tell me that it could be cause by the way the wheels are torqued when the tired were rotated, as u can guess the dealership didn't rotate my tires for me. This is the 1st time i've ever had my vehicle for anything. Now can can the way the wheels are torqued cause this problem?

 

The idea behind that is that if the lugs were not all torqued evenly the wheel may have a tendency to shimmy when it moves and therefore throw things off balance under braking, causing the steering wheel to shake. I always torque my lugs to 80ft-lbs per the manufacturer's directions, but my rotors warped before 15k miles at which time my dealer turned them for free.

It's a known problem -- ***** to your dealer until they take care of it. Unfortunately shaving them is only going to cause it to happen again.. and probably at closer intervals. I was informed by my dealer that they'd shave them once more then replace them.

I drove my Integra 10x harder than I do the TL and those rotors were straight when I traded it in with 48k on the clock.

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Thanks for the info. The service rep i talked to is tryin to say that the wheels not being probably torqued is what caused the rotors to warp. This is all with out even looking at the car. I have an appointment for tuesday.

U say it's a common problem, but is it common enuff all dealers are aware of this?

I will make sure they replace them and not shave the rotors.

My previous car i drove about the same as my TL and i got damn near 80k+ miles b4 i had to change the brakes.

 

I had an 89 Accord Coupe that constantly had warped rotors. I know that the first series Integra also had this problem. Honda took care of the braking problems with their later cars as I hadn't heard any more problems from talking to friends. It sounds like the old brake issues are coming back to haunt them. My 2000 TL has 15K and no issues as of yet. Of course, I drive it like an old man, though.

 

It's a common enough problem that my dealer knew about it. I told them I thought the rotors were warped and they just shaved them without batting an eye. The service manager said he's seen several TLs and Cls with warped rotors.

Since getting them turned mine work fine. No more shaking under braking.

 

Hmm.. you guys always have these problems that I have never had before. I have 18K miles on my car and it does not shake when I brake. I do drive hard and use my brakes often. Weird.

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Had the same problem at 20K. Dealer said there was a TSB on the problem and that a new set of front pads was being called out for on all cars experiencing the problem. Needless to say, they turned both front rotors and installed the new factory pads no problem. *Dealer said the new pads may be softer/dissipate heat more quickly, we'll see...*

 

Never had any braking problems yet, even though the brakes in the TL are a lot spongier than my earlier cars.

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2000 Naples Gold 3.2TL/Navi - Factory Stock but with up-graded tires