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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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brake problem, please help

after i bled the brake system, the paddle feels funny at times. it brakes fine except at stop lights, the paddle sinks a couple inches after if has been depressed for 30 seconds or so. anyone has any good ideas? air leak, fluid leak?
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 11:08 PM
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Re: brake problem, please help

Originally posted by LagunaTL
after i bled the brake system, the paddle feels funny at times. it brakes fine except at stop lights, the paddle sinks a couple inches after if has been depressed for 30 seconds or so. anyone has any good ideas? air leak, fluid leak?
You still have air in one of the lines. Bleed the brake system again.

Start with the front driver side > front passenger side > rear passenger side > rear driver side.

The best tool for this is a vacum hose kit, around $25. It sucks so you don't need a 2nd person to help you, because you don't need to press the brakes to pump fluid out.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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Actually, you want to start with the farthest line and work your way to the shortest line when bleeding brakes. Also, check to make sure that you tightened all the bleeder screws in the caliper and that air isn't seeping in that way. When you are bleeding the brakes, make sure to periodically add fluid into the master cylinder, because if you don't, you will eventually end up sucking air back into the system from the master cylinder.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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You definitely still have air in the system. Just redo it again using johnny's instructions.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by johnnyb_s
Actually, you want to start with the farthest line and work your way to the shortest line when bleeding brakes. Also, check to make sure that you tightened all the bleeder screws in the caliper and that air isn't seeping in that way. When you are bleeding the brakes, make sure to periodically add fluid into the master cylinder, because if you don't, you will eventually end up sucking air back into the system from the master cylinder.
And you are

Trust me when I say Start with the front driver side > front passenger side > rear passenger side > rear driver side.

This came from the 99+ TL Acura Service Manual that mechanics use at the acura dealers
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Bitium


And you are

Trust me when I say Start with the front driver side > front passenger side > rear passenger side > rear driver side.

This came from the 99+ TL Acura Service Manual that mechanics use at the acura dealers
hmmmm.....so you aren't just full of it.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Bitium


Trust me when I say Start with the front driver side > front passenger side > rear passenger side > rear driver side.

This came from the 99+ TL Acura Service Manual that mechanics use at the acura dealers
Interesting . I always started from the farthest point, then worked forward. But, if this is what Acura does, well it's time to change. Thanks for the info.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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hmmmm.....so you aren't just full of it.
.....IMO I don't really care were you start, but if the book says that, then you should.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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why are you doing this to start with?
did your brakes get funny feeling so you decided to bleed them, or am I missing something.
I just had a problem thats been ongoing with my brakes. repaired, after 2 master cylinders and a bunch of bleed jobs,they found that the abs box was sucking air in some how.
my brakes would be fine for about a 1000 miles or so then start to get softer. until it would almost go to the floor. this went on for about 8,000 miles.



I just reread your sig, i guess its the 96 tl. I would say that this wont apply then. sorry for no help.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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And you are


Sorry Bitium, didn't mean to steal your thunder. From my experience with cars and from the mechanics I've talked to, that was the way brakes were bled. I guess Acura figures their way is as good as any, and as far as I can tell, no need to argue with Acura...they've proven themselves. So thanks for the info!
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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"why are you doing this to start with?
did your brakes get funny feeling so you decided to bleed them, or am I missing something. "

i bled the 96 TL which never had the fluid changed for the last 6 years.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by johnnyb_s


Sorry Bitium, didn't mean to steal your thunder. From my experience with cars and from the mechanics I've talked to, that was the way brakes were bled. I guess Acura figures their way is as good as any, and as far as I can tell, no need to argue with Acura...they've proven themselves. So thanks for the info!
don't worry bro. You are not the only one I have heard "start from farthest and work towards the shortest line" But like you said if acura says the other way, then that's the way it should be done.
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