Any update on the RES?
03-24-2002, 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by SL1200MK4
April fools?
but seriously thought... that's the mod to get for sure...
April fools?
but seriously thought... that's the mod to get for sure...
03-24-2002, 07:15 PM
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Re: newbie question?
Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
can someone please explain what this mod is?
thanks in advance
can someone please explain what this mod is?
thanks in advance
It's a replacement for that... Pictures released show it being quite a bit taller than the stock one. Apparently there have been problems getting it to fit under the hood and still produce the claimed HP gain.
(There are actually more than 6 bolts, but they're under the plastic cover.)
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03-24-2002, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
cool thanks, can you post a link where I can see pictures and read more about this.
Thanks,
cool thanks, can you post a link where I can see pictures and read more about this.
Thanks,
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Originally posted by fla-tls
I still want to see dyno's from independent sources...
I still want to see dyno's from independent sources...
I will find out for you guys in the next few days.
03-25-2002, 08:32 AM
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I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
Some more informatiion:
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.
I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.
Some more informatiion:
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.
I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.
03-25-2002, 08:43 AM
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Re: newbie question?
Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
can someone please explain what this mod is?
thanks in advance
can someone please explain what this mod is?
thanks in advance
we may never see it
03-25-2002, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by RAdams
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
03-25-2002, 02:15 PM
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This is a really dumb question, but can someone explain the difference between a billet piece and a cast piece? Also, is the hood really that close to hiting the RES when closing the hood? Could you just place some foam cushion on the hood right where it would touch the RES so that pieces of metal wouldn't break and be sucked up in the engine? Thanks!
Charles
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03-25-2002, 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by 3.2 TL
This is a really dumb question, but can someone explain the difference between a billet piece and a cast piece? Also, is the hood really that close to hiting the RES when closing the hood? Could you just place some foam cushion on the hood right where it would touch the RES so that pieces of metal wouldn't break and be sucked up in the engine? Thanks!
Charles
This is a really dumb question, but can someone explain the difference between a billet piece and a cast piece? Also, is the hood really that close to hiting the RES when closing the hood? Could you just place some foam cushion on the hood right where it would touch the RES so that pieces of metal wouldn't break and be sucked up in the engine? Thanks!
Charles
The casting process involves forcing liquid metal into molds to obtain a final product. A billet item is "carved" from one piece of material using a highly-precise (and expensive) CNC mill.
03-25-2002, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by RAdams
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
Some more informatiion:
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.
I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
Some more informatiion:
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.
I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.
How long will this "testing" period take? Also, what will the "testing" involve?
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Originally posted by RAdams
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
Last time I talk to him, he said that he might need to switch to billet, didn't tell me why, because he wasn't sure. Now I know.
I know he was concerned with quality, but also concern on keeping the price that he posted. I would prefer billet for higher quality and better looking, even if I had to pay a couple of more dollars.
Hopefully I will see him one of these days and talk more about this. Thanks for the info.
03-25-2002, 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by zapata
How long will this "testing" period take? Also, what will the "testing" involve?
How long will this "testing" period take? Also, what will the "testing" involve?
The final "testing" period will be long enough for a few people to drive every day with them, in real-world circumstances, and report back. The next time I see him (which should be soon since my mom's CR-V should be arriving any day now) I will try to nail him down on more exact terms.
Until then, I'll report back as I get more information.
03-26-2002, 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by johnnyb_s
I've seen posts quoting $299...
I've seen posts quoting $299...
My guess for a final price $320.
03-26-2002, 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by TLluver
Thats not to bad...one more question, any estimate on how much HP it will produce? Thanks
Thats not to bad...one more question, any estimate on how much HP it will produce? Thanks
I copied this from another thread.
The RES is realated to the air intake and resonance. It gives you an average of 12hp and a max of 16hp and an average of 11ft tq and max of 15ft tq on the entire RPM band for the TL-P. For the Type S it gives you an average of 18hp and a max of 21hp and an average of 16ft tq and a max of 18ft tq on the entire RPM band. All at the wheels.
The MMII will be price about $200. Is an electrical device and it will give you about the same gains of the RES (above).
PS: Not 100% acurate on the TL type S numbers, just what I remember. The TL-P numbers are acurate.
PS: Don't ask me about gains together with CAI or headers, but the numbers will probably improved, but I don't have the numbers since it hasn't been tested yet.
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The MMII will be price about $200. Is an electrical device and it will give you about the same gains of the RES (above).
What and where is the MMI? When is MMII coming out?
03-26-2002, 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
I was wondering what Mystery Mod 1 is. I'm assuming if there is a MMII there is a MMI.
I was wondering what Mystery Mod 1 is. I'm assuming if there is a MMII there is a MMI.
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hope they make one for the 99 tl
i hope they make one for the 99tl, but first someone has to make one for ANY year tl!! I think one could be adapted to the 99 tl pretty easily.
03-27-2002, 11:18 PM
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Re: hope they make one for the 99 tl
Originally posted by AK_MOBBER
i hope they make one for the 99tl, but first someone has to make one for ANY year tl!! I think one could be adapted to the 99 tl pretty easily.
i hope they make one for the 99tl, but first someone has to make one for ANY year tl!! I think one could be adapted to the 99 tl pretty easily.
Is a totally different manifold. Doug is working on a solution.
