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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Any update on the RES?

So does anyone know whats going on with this? Last time I remember, someone said it would be out in March....well it is March.
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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According to the last update that said 60 days, it is supposed to be out during the first week of april.
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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April fools?

but seriously thought... that's the mod to get for sure...
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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April fools?

but seriously thought... that's the mod to get for sure...
I still want to see dyno's from independent sources...
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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newbie question?

can someone please explain what this mod is?

thanks in advance
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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Re: newbie question?

Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
can someone please explain what this mod is?

thanks in advance
When you look at your engine, you'll see a silver/gray section on the top - held by 6 chrome plated screws. This is called a resonator, and it covers a common chamber on your intake.

It's a replacement for that... Pictures released show it being quite a bit taller than the stock one. Apparently there have been problems getting it to fit under the hood and still produce the claimed HP gain.

(There are actually more than 6 bolts, but they're under the plastic cover.)
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 07:36 PM
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cool thanks, can you post a link where I can see pictures and read more about this.

Thanks,
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
cool thanks, can you post a link where I can see pictures and read more about this.

Thanks,
Couldn't find 'em... Try doing a search.
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by fla-tls

I still want to see dyno's from independent sources...
You know me. We met on the orlando meet. Trust me OK. It's real.

I will find out for you guys in the next few days.
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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I'm getting it for sure, can't wait but does anybody know how much it's gonna be?
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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Who is the manufacturer so that I can do a search for it and check out all the specs? Thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.

Some more informatiion:

The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.

The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.

I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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Re: newbie question?

Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
can someone please explain what this mod is?

thanks in advance
Its this wonderful mystery mod being released monthly, (hahahhahaahahah)

we may never see it
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by RAdams
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.
If they need anyone else to help test the mod I'd be more than happy to volunteer.
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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lol, me too me too!!!
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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This is a really dumb question, but can someone explain the difference between a billet piece and a cast piece? Also, is the hood really that close to hiting the RES when closing the hood? Could you just place some foam cushion on the hood right where it would touch the RES so that pieces of metal wouldn't break and be sucked up in the engine? Thanks!

Charles
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by 3.2 TL
This is a really dumb question, but can someone explain the difference between a billet piece and a cast piece? Also, is the hood really that close to hiting the RES when closing the hood? Could you just place some foam cushion on the hood right where it would touch the RES so that pieces of metal wouldn't break and be sucked up in the engine? Thanks!

Charles
I was afraid my initial post would cause some concern that the RES touches the hood. It does not. However, there's already precious little clearance to begin with so, yes, this will make it even tighter. If anything, Doug's testing shows how concerned he is about quality.

The casting process involves forcing liquid metal into molds to obtain a final product. A billet item is "carved" from one piece of material using a highly-precise (and expensive) CNC mill.
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by RAdams
I ran into Doug this weekend at Rick Case's new Honda dealership. He mentioned that the trial run of the new BILLET units have already been produced. He said I could expect to have one in hand for testing VERY shortly.

Some more informatiion:

The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.

The initial parts run was done in natural color only. Anodized pieces will be available in a few colors (I don't have details on WHICH colors) shoftly after the trial run.

I'm awaiting the release of this thing as anxiously as anyone else. Rest assured as soon as I get my hands on one I'll take plenty of pics and get to the dyno for some before/after pulls.

How long will this "testing" period take? Also, what will the "testing" involve?
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by RAdams

The switch from a cast piece to billet was made for several reasons, namely quality. Apparently some "what if" testing Doug did showed that if the hood were to hit the top of the unit hard enough (for whatever reason), the casting could possibly crack causing your motor to ingest pieces of it. Not good. The billet unit is, among other things, much stronger than the cast piece.
This is exactly what I thought happen. I haven't talk to doug in a while, since he moved to Honda.

Last time I talk to him, he said that he might need to switch to billet, didn't tell me why, because he wasn't sure. Now I know.

I know he was concerned with quality, but also concern on keeping the price that he posted. I would prefer billet for higher quality and better looking, even if I had to pay a couple of more dollars.

Hopefully I will see him one of these days and talk more about this. Thanks for the info.
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by zapata



How long will this "testing" period take? Also, what will the "testing" involve?
My best guesses:

The final "testing" period will be long enough for a few people to drive every day with them, in real-world circumstances, and report back. The next time I see him (which should be soon since my mom's CR-V should be arriving any day now) I will try to nail him down on more exact terms.

Until then, I'll report back as I get more information.
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Old Mar 25, 2002 | 07:36 PM
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How much is the RES supposed to cost?
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by TLluver
How much is the RES supposed to cost?

I've seen posts quoting $299...
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by johnnyb_s



I've seen posts quoting $299...
The price might change since the material was change on the production unit. The billet process is more expensive.

My guess for a final price $320.
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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My guess for a final price $320.


Thats not to bad...one more question, any estimate on how much HP it will produce? Thanks
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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Thats not to bad...one more question, any estimate on how much HP it will produce? Thanks
Where have you been

I copied this from another thread.

The RES is realated to the air intake and resonance. It gives you an average of 12hp and a max of 16hp and an average of 11ft tq and max of 15ft tq on the entire RPM band for the TL-P. For the Type S it gives you an average of 18hp and a max of 21hp and an average of 16ft tq and a max of 18ft tq on the entire RPM band. All at the wheels.

The MMII will be price about $200. Is an electrical device and it will give you about the same gains of the RES (above).

PS: Not 100% acurate on the TL type S numbers, just what I remember. The TL-P numbers are acurate.

PS: Don't ask me about gains together with CAI or headers, but the numbers will probably improved, but I don't have the numbers since it hasn't been tested yet.
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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The MMII will be price about $200. Is an electrical device and it will give you about the same gains of the RES (above).

What and where is the MMI? When is MMII coming out?
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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MMII is Mystery Mod II...I think it is still in the works, which is why not much info has been released about it yet.
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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What and where is the MMI?
I was wondering what Mystery Mod 1 is. I'm assuming if there is a MMII there is a MMI.
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Bitium, so is the RES still only available for 2000 TL and up? No RES for 1999 TLs? Will Doug make RES for 1999 TL?
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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the 99's get left out of everything...... 5 spd, res, gauges........
you guys with 00 and newer suck.
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Old Mar 26, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by 03TLTYPES
I was wondering what Mystery Mod 1 is. I'm assuming if there is a MMII there is a MMI.
MMI is the RES that everyone is talking about, although it is no longer a mystery
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Until it's available for purchase it's VaporI. After it's available for purchase it's MMI till proven to be real. After reality it's RES. Hype and speculation are just that!
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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hope they make one for the 99 tl

i hope they make one for the 99tl, but first someone has to make one for ANY year tl!! I think one could be adapted to the 99 tl pretty easily.
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Old Mar 27, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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Re: hope they make one for the 99 tl

Originally posted by AK_MOBBER
i hope they make one for the 99tl, but first someone has to make one for ANY year tl!! I think one could be adapted to the 99 tl pretty easily.
Is already made for every TL execpt the 99 TL, 98 CL, accord V6.

Is a totally different manifold. Doug is working on a solution.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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So has this whole RES thing been abandon? I have not seen any updates or new information about it since May. Is it for sale anywhere yet?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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guess that makes this a real mystery and nice conversation, but other than that worthless.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 09:25 AM
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Yeah, any word on this yet?
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 02:16 AM
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any news on this yet????
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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This issue is dead.

It's time to move on, unfortunately......
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Thanks for killing our RES dreams Pritch...
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