Which car would you go with if you had to choose again and for what reason(2003 TL type S or 2004 G35 sedan 6MT)?

 

635 coupe? if so def the g35c or if its the sedan than get the type S.

 

How about spend that extra for the new model TL? Even though it's arguable, the new '04 TL looks hot.

To me, I would definitely get the '04 TL if you can somehow get that instead of the '03 TLS or the G35.

But to answer your question, if I could change my mind and undo the past, I would still pick the TLS over the G35. Although I'm sure the G35 is a nice car I just think it's "too bulky" in body design and plus, the cost difference is slightly higher than the TLS if you want to be fully equipped (kits, etc.)

But hey don't sweat it. Both cars have their own strenghts and weaknesses--it's just a matter of your own preference. My best advice is: Follow your heart.

 

Don't forget that the new TL will also come in a 6-speed version. I think I'd still pick the 03 TLS over the G35s but it would be a tougher call. I've grown to like the G except that I am still not a fan of the interior.

 

yah I grew to like the G35 also. I only like it though in either black or silver, and it has to have a spoiler on the back. Personally though, if I could do it again, I definitely would have considered the G35 coupe. I absolutely love that car, and the exhaust noise is magnificant on that thing, as is the same on the FX45.

 

since you dont have to worry about snow, i'd say go for the g35 sedan with the manual and sport package. The new TL isnt fresh enough.

 

I woulda bought a G35 AWD if there was one available when I got my 02 TLS.

But personally, I'm holding out for a 4 door version of the G35 coupe (and no, the G35 sedan is NOT what that is, they are totaly different animals - the G35 coupe looks WAY better)

 

If I had to go back in time to two years ago, I would have bought the TL-S in the first place rather than the TL-P. The interior of the G35 is still way too sparse.

The argument is moot with the arrival of a 6MT TL. TL wins that contest, hands down. RWD no good in snow.

 

i would pick the TL-S it looks better and the interior is WAY nicer on the TL-S. but if i were looking now it would be the 04 TL with 6speed manual!

 

Cant stand how ugly the sedans are, so TL-S

 

Go with the TL-S

 

Great points! Reason I didn't mention the coupe is that my wife (at least in less than four weeks she will be) prefers coupes and so I usually go with Sedans. The G sedan is a good car but again I like the interior of the TLS more. And I think the interior of the new TL blows the TLS (and many other cars) away. Now if they could only make it a 3.5 DOHC AWD monster then I'd be there tomorrow...well maybe after the wedding, to get one of those.

 

I'd honestly get the awd, 6sp G35 sedan...The interior pretty much sucks compared to Acura, service isn't ranked as high as Acura, but the performance is better for roughly the same cost (appx less than $3k more). Likewise, aftermarket support for the G35 is pretty d@mn strong right now, so modding would be just as fun.

 

Traitor!

 

I know, I know...AWD is the shiznit along with higher hp. I woulda got an Audi but reliability and service with mods was a major concern. At least Infinity, service issues or not, has gotten to be bottom lined more reliable than Audi.

If Acura had a RWd or AWD platform, I'd definitely stick with it for a long, long time, but the limitations with FWD or growing more apparent already, and the sc is only gonna make it worse!

 

I hear ya bud! More and more I think my next car will be RWD or AWD as well and something that will be more mod friendly. I think if Acura can come up with an AWD TL (which I still have hope for) then I will stay. I woulda liked an S4 also but reliability scared me away and there is no way it would have stayed stock. chip, exhaust and probably a down-pipe would have been slapped on it. Sh!t, I haven't ruled out getting a 2002/3 used S4 next year if my tranny keeps acting up.

G35S AWD would be nice but I'm not completely sold on the G yet (unless its the coupe!).

 

Infiniti service is better than Acura. Infiniti has only been bested by Lexus and Saturn in the last 5 years. The Infiniti dealership in San Diego gives you a g35 as a loaner and washes the car everytime you come in. Unfortunately, the Acura dealership wasn't as accomodating.

 

Really? Infinity here sucks. They use a fleet of older I30's for loaners and you get no wash. They are not the most mod friendly, either...

Acura here is VERY mod friendly. Their install rate for Comptech parts is only $55 hour--way less than Acura's normal service rates. I get a free wash with any service visit for any reason. I get free interim oil changes and only charged a little short of $10 for the others when I bring my own oil/filter during scheduled maintenance visits. I get it detailed inside and out--FREE--twice a year. The loaners are TL's for more than one day, TSX's for a single day. Oh yeah, they mail out their own coupons for discounts on scheduled service.

I've said this before: Your dealer has more to do with your Acura service experience and warranty work than Acura or HOA itself...

 

I'm confused by that: "4 door version of the G35 coupe ". Would that be the G35 sedan with aero package and 280hp VQ?

 

I get his vibe...The coupe looks entirely different than the sedan to me as well. It is truly, exterior-wise of course, a beautiful car. I, however, am in the minority that really thinks the G sedan is very good looking as well, albeit different... I still got nothing but love for my baby, though...

 

In my 5 years of Acura brand ownership, and watching the service level drop in the toilet .. the build quality fall (Even Honda's VP admitted that) .. and all the intermittent problems my '03 CLS-6 has .. G all the way!

 

Ok id like to update this thread as a new car has come into my spectrum.

2003 TL type-S or 2004 G35 sedan 6MT or used 00-02 BMW 330Ci 5MT?

 

330CI hands down.....g35 sedan is just looks wrong...coupe on teh other hand is hot...but TL-S vs 330ci?....ill take the 330ci because of hte mod potential

 

Im kinda new to the 330Ci, what exactly is the mod potential?

P.S.-I come from a back ground of 5 series.

 

BMW has no mod potential. If you want a tuner car, get an A4 or a used S4.

 

Meaning, "modifying" your car with "performance" parts. If you are not planning on this, then who cares. If you are, modifying a BMW is a pricey operation and indeed, the Audi is much more mod and cost friendly to do that...

You are all over the spectrum with your cars, vaio. A $28.5k new Acura, a $35k Infinity and a $27k used Bimmer...I personally would never buy a used BMW. Maybe new, but not used. Service is expensive with them and if you have problems related to someone else's old abuse, well, you can imagine the issues. The Acura resale jsut fell in the toilet with the '04 remake, but you get a great, all around car. Infinity is a bit cheesy on the inside, obviously more expensive, but it hauls a$$ and is handles better than the Acura, not on par with the Bimmer, but you'd lap the Bimmer anyway, sop who cares there? Features wise, the Jap cars are ahead of the BMW, though end the long run--5 more years, the BMW holds its value better...

If I wanted a good, quality performing car, I get the Acura. If I wanted to keep it a long time and wanted ultimate resale and service wasn't a big deal to me, I'd get BMW (more status for the WASPs, too), but if the extra $$ didn't matter, and I wanted to haul a$$ above all else and get good reliability and could hold back from throwing up because of the interior, the G35...

But, what do I know...

 

Let the dealer wash your car ... you will wonder where those swirl marks came from .... trust me!!!

My Acura Dealer washed my car (I did not know this) the first time I took it in for service, I have since told them..please do not wash my car...

 

ive never had a issue like that from my dealer.
oh and my choice would still be the acura 1st then the g35 then any thing other than the bmw. the bmw would cost way to much to own. there reliability isnt very good

 

No question -- i would have gotten the Infiniti ...

a better vehicle in the 6-spd w/ the RWD . no question.

 

Well i bought a 2001 BMW 330Ci 5MT sport today and couldnt be happier. It just handles awesomely and i cant wait to improve upon it even more. Thankd everyone for helping me make a decision.

 

You guys are comparing apples to oranges. Here's the skinny.

The G35x is in a different league. Does not belong in the same class, not in the same sentence, as the 330 OR the TL. If you want to talk about hot mod potential, check out the havoc you can wreak with a Jim Wolf Technologies Twin Turbo (minor mods and the drivetrain is proven to 600 whp). However, when it was bone-stock, my car outclassed EVERYTHING you have brought up here. If you don't believe the numbers (ponies, AWD/RWD vs FWD as far as the honda is concerned, they type of traction control employed, and yes, mods mods mods) then you should take one on a beat run. Drive it like you stole it. Scare the crap out of the salesman. That's what I did. I took an exit at 90 mph and an hour later I drove it home, to the wife's dismay. Compare the coupe to the AWD sedan. The sedan wins. Lighter and AWD.

Let me tell you a few things about my baby. Beemers can't hang. I get them pulling up to me all the time. Less and less now, but when I first got my '05 I'm talking consistently. I have more power at my disposal. The VQ35DE is a very large V6 (3.5L) and produces more hp (yes mine is 280bhp stock, but look at a 350Z, same engine, configured the same, try a new intake tube and racing filter for $250 and the gap is closed). The AWD makes my turns faster and tighter. The traction control does not use brakes. The ABS is layered over top, but the traction control takes the form of an electronic differential that gives power to where it is needed rather than robbing the slipping wheels. Look into what your car does, I did.

One fine day, a brand-new TL decided it would be fun to tailgate me. I opened it up and lost him (Speedy Gonzales style, downshift and gone) three times in a row on a straight highway. Next, he tried to follow me off an exit, and when that slip engages and the front wheels come under power, it's like I am getting towed through the turn. I downshifted on that exit and hung it out and that TL almost lost it, had to hit his brakes hard and ended up with a tire on the grass. Later, dude. FWD cars can't drift, and an AWD car does not have to.

So trust me, I know. If you actually drive a Skyline, you will understand. Different car, so PLEASE don't compare it to a 330 or any honda at all. My ears are gonna bleed if you keep it up. BMW does not even make an AWD that has the kind of power my car offers. Honda just picked up the gauntlet 2 years after Nissan threw it down, but it actually costs over 10K more. Don't worry about my car looking wrong btw, the taillights look fine, and that's all you will see anyway.

The Fairlady and the Skyline are truly impressive cars. Before you talk about which is better, drive them. Many people don't like the luxury car feel of the Skyline, but you can stiffen that right up for not too much money. See you on the road.

Driver of Stella, the Lakeshore Slate 2005 G35x with the Stillen airbox, K&N cone filter, 250Z intake tube, Megan Racing headers, Kinetix Racing cats, and 50% tint that just blew past you. And yes, I was laughing while blasting the Bose system and using the nav system to get to your sister's house.

 

And you are answering a 3 yr old thread

 

At least we know he that he knows how to use search

 

Atleast with the TL and BMW you get a Interior that doesnt look like cheap plastic, cut corners to save like the G35

And the G35 is not such a great car that doesnt belong being compaired to the TL and BMW. so get over your high horse.

 

WOW you suck

 

Only in an honda... er... acura forum would this level of crap go unchecked. Goes to show.



(ps you read it, right?)

 

um... Not true. And yes, it IS such a great car that the 330 can't compare, nor can the TL. If you disagree, you are delusional. Yes, Nissan cut corners to save money when they made my car. The intake and exhaust systems are not on point, neither are the brakes, esp. the pads. However, even hobbled with these stock parts, I have still driven circles around the 330 (no match when it comes to power and speed, closer than the TL handling). However, I have corrected most of the problems with my car, and will correct the rest. I should be up to my goal of 300 whp by the time my cats and headers get put in, and the Stillen exhaust will be gravy.

The TL is more or less a joke, a bad overpriced one. Should a luxury car rattle and squeak like that after only a year or two? No.

On the other hand, should a luxury sport sedan boast the largest V6 currently offered in that class, and should the manufacturers coax an astounding level of power and torque from within? Yes, and that's why thw VQ35DE has done so well in Ward's rankings over the last 10 years. In addition, the layered AWD/traction control/ABS is something Nissan perfected in '89 with Godzilla, an outdated racer that would absolutely whip a TL, make it wish it was an '95 civic with sawed springs and a stereo worth more than the car itself, oh yeah what about the spinners... Read up on it! Better yet, drive one! It's a better car, simply because it's in a different class. My original point was that the entire thread is a foolish, ill-informed comparison of apples and oranges. I am frequently offended by stupidity and occasionally by bad advice, and so I had to set the record straight.

 

Well, if by suck you mean I am 100% on-point, or if you mean that I don't pull punches and obviously know what the hell I am talking about, or if you mean that my car should never be compared to cars that perform to a lesser degree, you are right. Kind of like someone saying I want a hatchback, and running out to compare a stock Focus to a top-of-the-line AWD Golf. Drive both before you open your mouth, that's all. Drive them and then tell me I am wrong.

 

So here's what I figure:

G35 owner (zippysedan) comes to Acurazine looking for trouble. He uses the search function to find comparison threads, and finds this one. Paying no attention to the date of the last post in this thread from 2003, he gives a long-winded, fanboy answer making himself look multi-talented - like a moron, and a douchebag, all at one time.

And it backfires.

I smell a ban coming on.

 

No, and I'll say it again. I found this thread looking for something else altogether. I saw what looked like a vast pool of misinformation, so I waded in with my Highbeams of Truth. So, if someone should get banned, perhaps it should be the ones who venemously and vigorously defend an undefendable position. YOU are throwing around insults, I speak only the truth.

1) more options
2) better technology
3) better handling
4) much, much more power

So go figure. I really don't care.

You want to get me banned, careful that does not backfire. I wish I could speak slower for you. I. Did. Not. Insult. Anyone. You. Did.