I have had this 02 Nissan Maxima se for 2 days now (rental) and I have to say I am impressed with the maxima. The build quality is there and the interior isnt all that bland. I can say the Maxima seems to have less noise than the tl but the handling is pretty sh#tty. The car all around is pretty good and would take it over the accord v6 . The hids were nice aswell . Anyone else dive 02 maxima yet? I have yet to drive the tl -s but the 02 maxdima has got some balls when accelerating. I love my 99 tl but I have to say Nissan is coming with the fire .

 

The 02 maxima should have no problem with our 99 TL (255 v. 225 hp). If the 99 TL is modded then it will be a toss-up (auto max only). The manual will kill us. That's why we let the TL-S guys handle them.

But don't get me wrong, I LOVE MY 99 TL!

 

The maxima pisses me off...The altima pisses me off...I dont know, but nissan really pisses me off...Shyne

 

sorry.. but a modded 99 TL cant take a stock 02 maxima.

 

from a stop no.....on the highway it is possible. in the 1/4 mile the maxima has about a second on us (at least that was the difference between my time and a stock max at the time). on the highway though when we raced he was only able to pull on me once i hit 4th gear (99) @127 and then once i got more into the powerband again we were pretty much accelerating at the same rate and i was about nose to tail with him and actually seemed like i started to gain on him a little bit. this is when i had sri, pulleys, no exhaust (sold and needed parts to come in to put on my old one) as my only mods. i think in that race a tl with headers could pull it out because all the power gained would be put to use (4000+ rpm) just my .02.

 

Speaking of the Maxima and TL, what is up wit maxima going HID crazy. Option on the Altima? and std on all Maxima models.

 

You're right.....no stock TL P or stock TL S can out perform a stock '02 6sp Maxima or 5sp Altima.

An automatic Maxima SE VS an automatic TLS is the only chance and that would solely depend on the drivers in both vehicles.

Nissan & Honda are both fully aware of this. Nissan has the lead right now. Honda will take the lead again when they introduce the next generation of engines. However, they will never be able to touch the upcoming G35. At least, not without a new compact model and rwd......my .02......

 

Don't count Nissan out when the next gen of Acura engines come out the TL is coming Sept of 2003 the next gen of Max is coming 2004 (mid 2003) expect AWD and V8 options from Nissan for the next gen Max.

 

Really? Do you know which cars will have V8 options? Max and Z?

 

The Max

 

well one of my friends has 01 Maxima Se.... and another friend of mine has a 99 TL. Both Stock, and they went out racin a couple nites ago, and I was in the TL. The TL won 8 out of 10 times. The 2 times we lost was because of too much wheel spin of the start

 

Yes the maxima is going to get a V8, BUT they are also making it to the size of the q45... so it wont be AS fast as everyone thinks.

 

The 01 Max engine and the 02 Max engine are 2 different animals
(222 VS 255 hp).

 

have you guys seen a 02 maxima at the track? It can do 1/4 in mid 14s... STOCK, and this is an AUTO!!!!!

The best i seen a highly MODDED typeS do is a 14.2........
What can a modded 99 TL do? I dont think it can do mid 14s.
Sorry. Im just saying how it is.

 

If the Q and the Maxima are going to share the same platform, what will they do with the I35?

 

Stock 02 automatic Maxima's run a 14.6-14.7 at the track. My friend has a TL-S and his dad has an 02 Max auto. When he drives his dad's car he notices a great deal more torque off the line in the Max.

 

The Q and the Max won't share the same platform the Max will share the Altima platform, but it will be bigger than a Altima.

Nissan/Infiniti are making the moves to globalize their platform all that is know is that the Max, Alti, Quest will be on the SS-L Platform.

The G35, 350Z, GT-R will be on the FM platform. If Infiniti continues to produce the I35 it will be on the SS-L platform. No mention has been made of the fate of the I35 though, so who knows.

 

Even if it is the same size as the Q it will have a 6spd manual and AWD to move that weight though.

 

Of course the Maxima 3.5L will win. it has just as much horsepower with more torque. I've seen stock dynos posted here or on Acura-cl and the TLS/ CLS seem to dyno around 200hp at the wheels. SCC just dynoed the Maxima and it did 211 hp and 218 ft/lb or torque. Can anyone confirm what I just said? Anyway, the Max has 0.3L more than Acura so all Acura has to do is raise the displacement a little.

 

you are correct, stock type-s has dynoed at 200hp.

Let the horsepower wars begin!!!

 

Appears Nissan's new European owners have decided to position the Altima in the Camry/Accord arena and plans for the Maxima is to follow VW's Passat upmarket with a V-8 option and AWD. As a matter of fact , if you look at the tail lights on a Q-45 they appear to be lifted from an Audi A6/A4 ('02). Additonally, the roof line on the Altima could have been lifted from the Passat/A6 not to mention those Avante Grade tail lights.

Appears Nissan's new owner's strategy is to mirror that of Fernand Piech at VW/Audi an hope for the same success story.

For my money VW/Audis are some of the finest (elegant/sporty) cars engineer today (appears Nissan feel's the same way).

 

Goshn said Nissan was look at Audi for inspiration of the Altima

 

Haha. Not really because SCC dynoed the 6 speed. I'm sure the Autos dyno around 200 hp too. Damn torque converters

 

How does the hp a car put down at the wheel coinside with the Transmission being 6spd?

 

is maxima.org down or somthing?

 

yes but I post here as well. when ther is a Nissan/Infiniti topic

 

have you done any mods to your 2002?

 

Mostly cosmetic and FSTB as of right now....

 

A six speed tranny is a manual and loses only about 15% to the wheels while an automatic loses about 25%.

 

Based on that then a auto Maxima would be putting down 193HP... Doesn't sound right to me.

 

The auto max puts down around 195-200 hp. That is about 23%-21% parasitic loss through the drivetrain. The manual loses about 12% according to SCC's dyno. The TLS/CLS dyno's around 200hp so their auto trannys lose around 25%.

 

TL/Maxima Meet

I like both cars, can't hate...

but in August there will be a TL/Maxima Meet up in Niagara Falls
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=30022