Winter Tire Pkg.
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Winter Tire Pkg.
I have a set of Winter tires/wheels coming from the Tire Rack next week. I plan on changing the tires out myself. These tires are coming in mounted and balanced with the TPMS sensors.
1) Do I have to do anything to reset the sensors after installing the tires?
2) I can physically see where the jacking points are under the car, but where is this triangle located that the owner's manual says shows where the jacking points are?
3) Opinion request, is it worth it to purchase one of the heavy duty car jacks or is the one that comes with the car sufficient?
1) Do I have to do anything to reset the sensors after installing the tires?
2) I can physically see where the jacking points are under the car, but where is this triangle located that the owner's manual says shows where the jacking points are?
3) Opinion request, is it worth it to purchase one of the heavy duty car jacks or is the one that comes with the car sufficient?
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1) No. You just drive it for a few miles and the computer will figure out what is going on. You may be able to leave it overnight, and the same thing will happen. The reason for driving is that the interrogation rate between the computer and the pressure sensors increases to about once per minute vs maybe once per hour when the car is parked and turned off, to preserve the battery in the TPMS unit. The times are approximate, based on a generic system. I do not know the times for the Acura/Honda system.
2) Yes you can see the reinforcements under the car
3) It is worth the $99 to me to get the aluminum jack from Costco. I have not changed/rotated tires in the RL, but I have on my other three cars and it is well worth getting that jack.
4) Set your torque wrench to 80-85 lbs, no more. I think, but do not know, that the socket size will be 23 mm
2) Yes you can see the reinforcements under the car
3) It is worth the $99 to me to get the aluminum jack from Costco. I have not changed/rotated tires in the RL, but I have on my other three cars and it is well worth getting that jack.
4) Set your torque wrench to 80-85 lbs, no more. I think, but do not know, that the socket size will be 23 mm
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Originally Posted by robarsan
I have a set of Winter tires/wheels coming from the Tire Rack next week. I plan on changing the tires out myself. These tires are coming in mounted and balanced with the TPMS sensors. (...)
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The wheels didn't fit. Specifically, the inside of the wheel hit the brake caliper before I even had a chance to tighten the lugs. Long story short, I returned the entire tire/wheel package to the Tire Rack and they were very helpful and professional in dealing with this issue.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
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Thanks for the follow-up robarsan (even though this obviously wasn't a great experience). I was hoping to be able to use my 2004 TL OEM mag wheels but it seems they won't fit on the RL (damned!). I wonder if Acura will come up with a similar package deal to what they offered for the TL (4 OEM mag wheels and 4 winter tires). I hope so...
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Originally Posted by robarsan
The wheels didn't fit. Specifically, the inside of the wheel hit the brake caliper before I even had a chance to tighten the lugs. Long story short, I returned the entire tire/wheel package to the Tire Rack and they were very helpful and professional in dealing with this issue.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
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Originally Posted by robarsan
Correction: The winter tires are Pilot Alpin, not Aspen (...)
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Originally Posted by Sylvain
Are you happy with them? Did they work well over the winter? (we got tons of snow in my area this past winter and I will need good winter tires)
I would recommend reading the reviews at the Tire Rack website. I find them to be accurate and they cover a wide array of performance ratings with respect to road conditions.
#11
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22mm/80 lbs
Originally Posted by Chas2
(...)Set your torque wrench to 80-85 lbs, no more. I think, but do not know, that the socket size will be 23 mm
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I just re-researched this.
The manual says indirectly:
Tighten the wheel nuts securely in
the same crisscross pattern. Have
the wheel nut torque checked at
the nearest automotive service
facility.
Tighten the wheel nuts to:
94 lbf·ft (127 N·m , 13 kgf·m)
I say indirectly because this is the spec for the spare. My dealer says all the wrenches are set at 90, regardless of the car. Did not say whether it applies to the SUVs...but the MDX manual quotes the same 94 lbs ft torque setting.
I do not have the socket size. I just know that the 21 for my Toyota do not fit. Too small. Dealer said I thought it was 23 but not really sure.
Who has a service manual?
The manual says indirectly:
Tighten the wheel nuts securely in
the same crisscross pattern. Have
the wheel nut torque checked at
the nearest automotive service
facility.
Tighten the wheel nuts to:
94 lbf·ft (127 N·m , 13 kgf·m)
I say indirectly because this is the spec for the spare. My dealer says all the wrenches are set at 90, regardless of the car. Did not say whether it applies to the SUVs...but the MDX manual quotes the same 94 lbs ft torque setting.
I do not have the socket size. I just know that the 21 for my Toyota do not fit. Too small. Dealer said I thought it was 23 but not really sure.
Who has a service manual?
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80lbs or 90lbs
Thanks for the quick and detailed follow-up Chas2. I believe it was 80 lbs for my TL and I don't really see why it would be that different for the RL. (but then, I'm no expert) As far as the socket size is concerned, I'll have to get one (or two) and see what fits...
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Originally Posted by Sylvain
Thanks for the quick and detailed follow-up Chas2. I believe it was 80 lbs for my TL and I don't really see why it would be that different for the RL. (but then, I'm no expert) As far as the socket size is concerned, I'll have to get one (or two) and see what fits...
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Originally Posted by robarsan
The wheels didn't fit. Specifically, the inside of the wheel hit the brake caliper before I even had a chance to tighten the lugs. Long story short, I returned the entire tire/wheel package to the Tire Rack and they were very helpful and professional in dealing with this issue.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
The RL wheels have an uncommon offset that many tire/wheel dealers still don't seem to grasp. I ended up just buying some Pilot Aspen winter tires and had them mounted on the OEM wheels.
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Originally Posted by DoctorTuna
That would really be quite unacceptable to me, especially if you purchased the package using their vehicle description option. It isn't the first time I've heard of problems like that with TireRack, and not just with the RL. Either way, I'm glad everything was resolved. I hope you got all money back, including return shipping!
I immediately called Tire Rack and got the wheels in motion (so to speak) to get a refund. They immediately sent the packaging material followed by a UPS pickup. It also helped that I emailed them a picture of the wheel hitting the caliper.
I checked the Tire Rack recently to see if they still sold that brand of wheel. They do, but they don't offer it with the RL. I guess they smartened up.
#19
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22mm
Originally Posted by Chas2
Call a dealer and ask, they will tell you. A good quality socket is not cheap. And let us all know what it turns out to be!
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