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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Another H&R-Aspec suspension setup thread

Well, this one is different to a certain degree.

I am considering running stock OEM struts in the rear with H&R springs. Up front go with Aspec struts with H&R springs.

I just installed the Aspec and as expected it handles the way I like but unfortunately does not give me the drop I am looking for.

I am hoping this setup will give me the sport suspension ride and drop without the 'bounciness' of the Aspec/H&R combo in the rear. Put in the '09+ swaybar in while I was down there too..

I think this setup might also reduce understeer.

Anyone consider this? I am really close to giving this a try...
Anyone got a set of H&R's they want to unload?

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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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white05 was just talking about how he had Aspec up front only and recently switched back to the full kit.

I don't see any reason your idea wouldn't work.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
white05 was just talking about how he had Aspec up front only and recently switched back to the full kit.

I don't see any reason your idea wouldn't work.
Not sure what this has to do with running H&R's all around and stock struts in the rear and Aspec strut in front.

It will work. Just wondering if anyone has run this setup as well as their results.

I'm close to picking up Tein coilovers at this point if I can't find a solution with a combo of H&R, Aspec and stock struts & springs.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I suppose I should have elaborated a little more. He had Aspec springs all the way around with Aspec shocks up front and stock shocks in the back. Similar to your idea.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
I suppose I should have elaborated a little more. He had Aspec springs all the way around with Aspec shocks up front and stock shocks in the back. Similar to your idea.


It is really not relative at all. running Aspec springs and H&R's are a completely different in terms of ride, handling and drop
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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i drove a car with the full aspec setup.... I run H&R on stock shocks in my car.

the full aspec kit is VERY stiff. I felt it rode excessively harsh. The H&R springs on stock shocks rides like stock.. I think it is slightly stiffer but not much. the difference in ride between H&R springs on stock shocks and the full aspec kit is huge. not even close.

I don't now, though, if the big difference in the ride is due more to the springs or more to the shocks. I hnestly would like my car to ride a bit firmer..it still has a lot of body roll in turns... i wonder how the ride would be with aspec shocks but H&R springs.

that would provide a better drop.. the OEM aspec drop is not enough...
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gman44116


It is really not relative at all. running Aspec springs and H&R's are a completely different in terms of ride, handling and drop
You're right. I can't imagine how I thought running aftermarket Aspec springs on Aspec shocks up front and OEM shocks in the rear was even remotely close to running aftermarket H&R springs on Aspec shocks up front amd OEM shocks in the rear. I was unaware that you just wanted to get your idea off your chest and not hear any replies. No one here has shared that setup in the past two years.

I have a set of used H&Rs for sale. I'll give them to you for $363.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
No one here has shared that setup in the past two years.

Don't be such a donkey. Thread count isn't the most important thing in life brotha. btw, do you ever start your own threads?? And when you post to other threads do you just post for the count or what? Several members have rode in the past with my setup referenced over the last few years. Haven't seen anyone chime in lately though:-)


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I have a set of used H&Rs for sale. I'll give them to you for $363.
What's your paypal, I'll take 'em!!

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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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i drove a car with the full aspec setup.... I run H&R on stock shocks in my car.

the full aspec kit is VERY stiff. I felt it rode excessively harsh. The H&R springs on stock shocks rides like stock.. I think it is slightly stiffer but not much. the difference in ride between H&R springs on stock shocks and the full aspec kit is huge. not even close.

I don't now, though, if the big difference in the ride is due more to the springs or more to the shocks. I hnestly would like my car to ride a bit firmer..it still has a lot of body roll in turns... i wonder how the ride would be with aspec shocks but H&R springs.

that would provide a better drop.. the OEM aspec drop is not enough...
Everything you said I couldn't agree with more. I keep kickin' myself that the Aspec shocks with H&R's will be just the sweet spot. I've searched back a few years and see you have chimed in on this topic many times. There just isn't enough information to make a informed decision if they're going to blend well.

I guess the only way I'm going to find out is to mount them up.

I don't mind the Aspec suspension. I've been on coilovers on a Lexus GS for the past 3 years with a nice flush look. I've got to straighten out my PAX situation first and decide if I'm going to have a summer/winter setup or keep the PAX setup for the winter and have dedicated rims/tires for summer.

All I know is right now I want the Aspec ride with the H&R drop and 19"s with summer weather on the horizon. Something tells me I am going to have to wait...
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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i will let you know tomm. I'm going to put H&R on my A-specs. i already have the 09 sway bar I'm just looking to decrease that gap as well. i live with horrible road conditions potholes everywhere uneven country pavement.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Legend
i will let you know tomm. I'm going to put H&R on my A-specs. i already have the 09 sway bar I'm just looking to decrease that gap as well. i live with horrible road conditions potholes everywhere uneven country pavement.

Sweet!! I've got the same current setup as well (Aspec and 09+swaybar).
Here in NE Ohio the roads aren't much better. What wheels are you on??

member eVtec just got back to me as he was running Aspec's with the H&R's. Here is what he had to say:


"I went from A-Spec + H&R Sport and back to A-Spec because the H&R substantially reduces the life of the struts.

If you see from my post, I commented that H&R is progressive and A-Spec is linear. That means, H&R is very springy, it absorbs small bumps very well but upsets the car for large bumps. While A-Spec spring is a bit harsher for small bumps but maintains consistent spring rate for large bumps.

If you must have the look, go for H&R but eventually I went back to A-Spec because it just rides better overall and H&R is a bit too low for some inclines in and out of certain parking lots. You'll have a lot of scratches on either the front bumper bottom or the middle of the car near the exhaust pipe.

I recommend just the A-Spec.

I went from 19" to 18" for the ride quality because of the bad roads here."


Carbon Legend, definitely let us all know your thoughts tomorrow and going forward. Cheers!!

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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Legend
i will let you know tomm. I'm going to put H&R on my A-specs. i already have the 09 sway bar I'm just looking to decrease that gap as well. i live with horrible road conditions potholes everywhere uneven country pavement.
great im looking to combo up with H&Rs too with my aspec. i would love to hear your review on this.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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I'm currently on 18" Avarus AV7 with Bridgestone RE076. Winter time OEM with Winterforce. Next Spring i will be on the hunt for a 20x9 setup again
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gman44116
Don't be such a donkey. Thread count isn't the most important thing in life brotha. btw, do you ever start your own threads?? And when you post to other threads do you just post for the count or what? Several members have rode in the past with my setup referenced over the last few years. Haven't seen anyone chime in lately though:-)
Don't call me brotha, bro. What's a post count? Is that that number under Yumcha's avatar that says 94,783? I have started a respectable number of threads. Here is one of my favorites: https://acurazine.com/forums/dating-relationships-14/do-you-your-significant-other-fart-around-each-other-834196/.

No one here has put Aspec up front, OEM in the back, and H&R all around and posted about it in the past two years. Maybe you would like to share these other member's experience? There are quite a few who have put H&R springs on all 4 Aspec shocks, but that's not what you asked for. My comment was a statement about Aspec shocks in the front and OEM in the back.

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What's your paypal, I'll take 'em!!

What's so screwy about my price? The MSRP is $369. They are lightly used, and since I heard they will be discontinued, I figured I would take $6 off of MSRP and offer them up for sale. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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^^^^^^^^^
Hey Brotha!! Here's my point. You have 43 threads you've started. You've posted over 5,500!!! Basically for every thread you start you PUKE all over 100 + other forum threads. Some helpful and informative. Most, well PUKE!!

Of the two threads I've started in the RL forum you've hijacked both!!
You've got nothing better to do with your time. Why don't you just stop posting in my threads.

In the 1st FS thread you call me a tool and in this thread about suspension setup trying to sell your H&R springs.

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT, brother!! You have too much time. Hell, you don't even have Aspec, so STFU ya big Donkay!!


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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Stay right there while I go get my "I give a shit what you think" attitude and be right back.

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Originally Posted by oo7spy
Stay right there while I go get my "I give a shit what you think" attitude and be right back.


Nothing better to do huh.....

Keep puking ya donkey..
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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I looked but couldn't find it, so I figured I would leave this here instead.



EDIT: Oh, that's right. You said puke. Here you go.











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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Back on topic

I made the swap with the H&R springs. and WOW huge huge improvement in ride quality it is actually softer than the Aspec springs. Drop is very nice and what i wanted. Aspec shocks and H&R springs are very close to stock comfort. potholes and rough roads are so much better with this combo compared to all Aspec
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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how is the bodyroll?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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Body roll is still there maybe a little less than aspec but not a huge improvement. the 09 sway bar helped quite a bit on the roll.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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Carbon, how long have you been off of stock?

I am interested to hear 02SilverSi's thoughts too because I figured H&R and Aspec would be more different than stock than you explained.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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i have been off stock for 3 months, i was stock for 1 year
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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i been on aspec for 2 years and i love them. im just worried the h&r will be too soft for my liking.
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
Stay right there while I go get my "I give a shit what you think" attitude and be right back.
What am I? Flypaper for freaks?

I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.


Originally Posted by ichi d
i been on aspec for 2 years and i love them. im just worried the h&r will be too soft for my liking.
I couldn't agree more ichi. Last thing I want is a soft suspension. I am a sports sedan driver at heart. Spoiled by many german autos in my lifetime. I wonder if there is a linear spring that will accompany our Aspec struts out there, somewhere and of course with the drop we want without the buku $$$ of TEIN's coils..

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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Legend
Back on topic

I made the swap with the H&R springs. and WOW huge huge improvement in ride quality it is actually softer than the Aspec springs. Drop is very nice and what i wanted. Aspec shocks and H&R springs are very close to stock comfort. potholes and rough roads are so much better with this combo compared to all Aspec
Carbon,

Thanks for chiming in on the new spring setup. Are you getting any unsettling feeling from the rear at speed? Example: 65 mph on highway/road imperfections or road transitions? Maybe it will take a few days/weeks to get a thorough feel for the new setup. Keep us updated. Greatly appreciated
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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if it gets down to it you can always cut off a coil and see how that goes. if it doesnt workout then tein is your next option. i had teins ss on my old car and i hated it.
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gman44116
Carbon,

Thanks for chiming in on the new spring setup. Are you getting any unsettling feeling from the rear at speed? Example: 65 mph on highway/road imperfections or road transitions? Maybe it will take a few days/weeks to get a thorough feel for the new setup. Keep us updated. Greatly appreciated
Drove 53 miles last night on the highway. got up to 90mph and the car felt planted no difference in play. transitions are much smoother than Aspecs but firmer than stock. imperfections you can still feel them but not as harsh as they were with Aspec's
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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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this doesnt sound so bad after, this setup would work great in the city.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Hey GMAN44116 - your idea should be close to perfect. Full aspec up front/stock shock & HR spring in rear. As 007spy mentioned, I experimented with the rear shocks. With the aspec rear shocks installed I could see the rear passengers' heads bobbing around over some poor roads. Put the stock shocks back in and drove it that way for about six months.

It wasn't until a couple of weeks ago I decided to give the aspec rear shocks another try. Somehow I am managing to live with them now and don't have any plans to go back to stock (although I'm still hanging on to the old parts, lol).

I also had upgraded the rear swaybar a long time ago. Don't think that took away from the ride quality, just used that for justification to stay on stock shocks for all those months.

The rear shocks can both be swapped in well under an hour, too.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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from everythign i've read the major factor making the aspec setup so stiff are the springs.

it would be interesting to see if anyone who has JUST H&R springs on STOCK shocks, ends up swapping the aspec shocks in their car, but keeps the H&R springs.... then see if handling improves from the stock shocks?

my car on stock shocks with H&R springs rides almost like stock to me. body roll was slightly improved, ride quality got a tad firmer, but overall... it feels much like stock... i noticed the difference the second I drove off after install..but now.. months and months later... if feels soft and comfortable to me.

everyone who is trying new combinations - thank you. we need all this trial / error / reviews to get enough info so future owners can make an informed decision!

if/when my stock shocks fail... i'll consider an aspec kit to pull out the shocks... if it really improves handling.

too bad no one like Koni or Tokico or Bilstein make aftermarket shocks for our car!
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Isn't Tien = Bilstien?

I am really amazed Monroe doesn't make our shocks. Not that they would be an improvement, but they almost always have an OEM equivalent.
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